I also like MP3 Direct Cut; pretty simple to use...and definitely
blind-friendly!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim Aune
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 5:30 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11

I might suggest using MP3 direct cut for editing MP3 files.  It's very fast,

and you don't have to convert the files.  It doesn't have a lot of the 
features that a program like sound forge has but it is very reliable.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Steve Jacobson
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 9:32 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11

Bob,

These are all very good points.  I'd like to explain a bit more about my 
earlier response in case it helps Kelly.
I was editing a four hour MP3 file over the weekend, and I was finding 
everything to be very sluggish including
moving through the file with PGUP and PGDN.  Since I had worked with some 
other large files in SF 11 I wondered
what had changed.  It turned out that I had generally worked with WAV files 
before.  I saved my MP3 file as a WAV
file and worked on it in that format and much of the sluggishness I was 
experiencing was gone.  Of course,
converting an MP3 file to WAV doesn't make it sound any better, but it did 
make a large difference in my ability
to move around in the file.  It may be my imagination as it is not that easy

to verify this, but I believe that
saving a file takes longer in SF 11 than it did in SF 10 or before, but I 
could be experiencing something else, or
it could be the added overhead that you mention.  It has been my experience 
that heavy file activity can lock out
screen readers or make them not responsive, so saving a file might be 
causing the appearance of loosing speech.
Sometimes starting NVDA or Narrator can help one figure out what is 
happening.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 11:13:34 +1000, Robert Nelson wrote:



>SF 11 is a far more complex program than SF 6.  The way that SF handles the
>file being edited has changed  because it is now a multi-channel editor and
>every time you do something that causes SF to write out the edited files to
>protect you from yourself, it takes time to complete the process.

>How quick the process will be is dependent on the read/write speed of your
>hard disk.  If you are working on a large file, that is to say, 4 or 5 hour
>mp3, then it will appear to be slow.

>The only setting that you might change is the location of temporary files.
>If you use a separate drive for the temporary files, there may be some gain
>but that will depend on the read/write sppeed.

>And, no, using a solid state drive will not really improve things that much
>because the Windows way of reading and writing to disk pretty well negates
>any gain there may be in using a SSD.

>The mp3 codec does appear to be slower than in SF 6 but you must remember
>that the program is doing a lot more processing than SF 6 did.

>Opening, editing and saving in wav format  may be slightly quicker  but you
>will eventually have to convert it to mp3.

>However, I find that for files of an hour or less the performance is on a
>par with SF 8D.

>The moral of the story may well be that the Sony people did not  anticipate
>that SF would be used to edit  7 or 8 hour long files.

>Bob Nelson


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kelly
>Sapergia
>Sent: Sunday, 13 July 2014 1:38 PM
>To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>Subject: Need Help with Sound Forge Pro 11

>Hi,

>After recently getting a new 64-bit PC with Windows 7 Professional, I
>decided to upgrade Sound Forge from 6.0D (which I've used for a number of
>years) to the latest version, Pro 11. However, I've noticed that this new
>version seems to be rather sluggish when compared to 6.0D.
>For instance, if I have two files loaded, and I switch to the other file by
>either using the Window menu or pressing Control+Tab, it seems to take
>awhile before I can do anything again. With 6.0D, going to a new window was
>instantaneous. There have also been times where I'll be doing some editing,
>and the program will seem to freeze for a couple minutes. When this 
>happens,

>I lose speech, but can Alt+Tab to another program, such as WinAmp.
>Eventually, everything works fine again, but I find this very frustrating.
>If anyone else is using this version, have you experienced these issues? 
>Are

>there any settings I should adjust to make it work more smoothly?

>Thanks.

>Yours Sincerely,
>Kelly John Sapergia
>Show Host and Production Director
>The Global Voice Internet Radio
>http://www.theglobalvoice.info

>Personal Website: http://www.ksapergia.net
>Business Website (KJS Productions): http://www.kjsproductions.com
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