dear Dane, I certainly don't hope you're referring to my skeptical first hand knowledge about Macs as misinformation. Smile
I lately spend some time with an incarnated Mac user trying to get Teamtalk to work, which failed dramatically. So trees don't grow into heaven with a Mac, and there are stil things that doesn't work so well from a blinds point of view like Adobe flash and so on. There are many issues fanatic mac users tent not to be willing to see with there expensive toy, so as long as this is the case truth often get bended a little in the Mac's favour. Grin There is no doubt that Apple hardware really rocks, and on the other hand you also pay for it. Personally I prefer a good solid piece of equipment rather then something sluggish and instable. There for I always build my stationary pcs myself, and get exactly the components I prefer, and know that they will play nicely together. My personal conclution of this debate is. If you have been using jaws and pc for many many years the only real good reason for switching is that you want to fly something new for inspiration, and that's in my opinion no bad reason at all. But comparing Pc and Mac is putting it a bit humoristically to compare apples and oranges. Grin Sonar for pc really is a nice tool if you're a professional musician and as far as I know hasn't been beaten by any available solution for Mac. On the other hand I'm so deadly tired of Internet Explorer as my browser that it almost drives me nuts. Grin Right now I'm running my audio through a physical Yamaha mixer over USB on a windows 7 computer, and it works flawlessly with super good audio quality as a result. I believe it also would be the case, if I were a Mac user. Best regards Brian -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 22. marts 2016 13:32 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 Okay I really didn’t want to get into this because the whole discussion has really become off-topic but basically there seems to be a whole heap of miss information going around about Apple Mac and Voiceover and the below sequence of emails just proves that. To the original sender, look up the documentation and tutorials, join a Mac list and ask questions etc rather than rely on mythical statements or statements that may have been true in the past but are not true now. Using Voiceover on a Mac is the same as using JAWS on a Windows PC, using Talkback on an Android phone, using Voiceover on an IOS etc, you have to “Learn” how it works and be fed correct information on the tools on how to use your Screen Reader. > On 22 Mar 2016, at 11:22 PM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ah yeah another good point. All though can't you do a VO key lok or > something so you don't always have to do that? I use to know all this > but since I never really put it in practice and even worse I've lost > all those podcasts. I now forget. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Brian Olesen > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:29 AM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: SV: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows > 10 > > Hi, > Interacting with things in mac OS requires quite a lot of key strokes > though. > On the winning side web browsing is a breeze on Mac. > > Brian > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af > Robert Nelson > Sendt: 21. marts 2016 22:40 > Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Emne: RE: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 > > > Perhaps but you must understand that learning about Mac OS and > VoiceOver is only the beginning. > > If you had no experience with windows, you would accept that the > awkward way things are done in MAC OS is normal but with a little > experience of windows you will find yourself trying to work out the > mind set of those who devised the OS and VoiceOver. > > However, given your experience in windows you may find that something > like audio editing has a steep learning curve. Yes, I know that > Garage Band, Amadeus Pro and Twisted Wave are very good audio editing > programs for sighted people but for a blind person they can be very > frustrating. > > The question you should be asking yourself is: is there anything that > I would want to do that can only be done on a Mac and, if so, is it > important enough for you to justify the outlay, considering that most > of the things you might want to do are possible through your I Phone. > > Anyhow, excuse me while I duck around the back to avoid the arrows and > flames of the Apple fans! > > Bob Nelson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Andy Logue > Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2016 5:46 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows > 10 > > Hi Devon and Hamit. > > I've always wanted to check out a mac computer but because ive been so > brainwashed in Microsoft, I didn't have the self confidence to try it > out for myself. > > What I was thinking was to keep my old Windows machine active for my > mail and so on, but the Mac could sit alone in another room and if I > spend some time each day, then I should be able to grasp the basic? > eh? Especially if > > I joined a blind mac list. > > One thing I have already found out that my Imac Store, which is in > glasgow, will spend up to an hour with a new customer in the shop. > Perhaps they may be interessted in offering me a little more start-up > time, given my blindness? Worth checking out eh? > > Thanks for your ideas guys. For the meantime, I'm going to check out > everything I can on the Imac Retina on the webpage. > > Thanks again. > Andy. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Devin Prater" <d.pra...@me.com> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 4:17 PM > Subject: Re: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows > 10 > > > Apple has a getting started guide, right when you turn on a new Mac. > Just wait a minute or two then follow the spoken instructions. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 21, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> An IMac as in the Apple computer? If so there are Mac lists and stuff >> but you'd have to listen to a lot of podcasts and stuff because you >> must then now learn Mac OS. If I'm understanding the question >> correctly. I had learned Mac OS but I've gotten Rusty. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >> Andy Logue >> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:57 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Subject: Thinking seriously on an Imac rather than a new Windows 10 >> >> Hi all. >> >> I love everything audio concerning my computer. I've music, >> described movies and talking books and I use programmes such as >> Goldwave to record streaming music. I also love burning the odd CD >> for a friend and recently, I've purchased a Zoom H6 digital recorder >> for even more interesting audio work. >> >> Many of my friends, who are not blind are telling me to buy the new >> Imac Retina and plug that into my AV and sound system. >> >> Any members use Imac for this sort ofstuff and is there any support >> for a new comer like myself about. >> >> Any advice would be very much appriciated. >> >> Very best wishes. >> Andy. >> >> > > > > > > > > ********** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
