Hmmm, Maybe I'll have another go with Airplay then. Incidentally, there was
a rumour that IOS 10 was going to allow one to keep Voice Over on a device
while playing audio over Bluetooth. I was disappointed when it didn't
transpire. Instead, it allows you to have audio on one channel and Voice
Over on the other. 

John


-----Original Message-----
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: 04 October 2016 16:32
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: IOS 10 And AirPlay

For anyone using an Apple device, there are some Stansel advantages to using
airplay. For one thing, VoiceOver stays on your device and doesn't interfere
with the music. For another, you can have multiple rooms playing from one
Mac. Of course you have to have airport expresses. But it still beats
Bluetooth for sound as far as I'm concerned. And not having VoiceOver
interfering with my music is a huge advantage. And it's also less laggy
Bluetooth. I have to disagree with John on that one. Trying to use my
android device when I'm playing music through my mega boom speakers is not
fun. Plus, I have a stereo downstairs. If I were stuck using Bluetooth, my
Mac wouldn't reach there. And if I left my eye device upstairs and went
downstairs for something, I'd be out of luck if I wanted to use that
downstairs stereo. Bluetooth won't go that far.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 3, 2016, at 11:50 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
wrote:
> 
> Yes, you pretty much summed it up and I'll get to that in a moment.
> I've not heard of the speaker you mentioned but I do know of something
that sounds similar, the new Bowers And Wilkins Zeplin wireless which has
Bluetooth and Airplay facilities as well as Spotify Connect.
> Unfortunately Bowers And Wilkins have seen fit not to give the Zeplin Air
DLNA connectivity, perhaps the thinking at B&W is that DLNA isn't as good as
AirPlay.
> Now that Bluetooth AptX is in use widely I just don't see a future for
AirPlay and the "Lag" exhibited by AirPlay is perhaps the most telling point
in this discussion, absolutely no good for wireless headphones for example.
> 
>> On 4 Oct. 2016, at 5:37 pm, John Gurd <j.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I've got a speaker in my loft called a Stealth Air 2 which has both 
>> Airplay and Bluetooth with a rather nifty little remote that lets you
select either.
>> I use Bluetooth every time. Less laggy for one thing.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: 03 October 2016 12:37
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 And AirPlay
>> 
>> Hmm.. interesting point however take a look around you and count just 
>> how many AirPlayed enabled devices there are now compared to a few years
ago?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/10/2016 5:32 PM, John Gurd wrote:
>>> Surely Apple wouldn't invent a whole system of Airplaying audio 
>>> using a method different from anyone else to thousands of appliances 
>>> designed just for it and depended upon by millions of people just to 
>>> get rid of it? No, that doesn't sound like Apple! (Grin)
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Dane Trethowan
>>> Sent: 03 October 2016 04:15
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10 And AirPlay
>>> 
>>> Still there yes but I'm given to wondering just how long for?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 3/10/2016 1:14 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>>> Well, they don't exactly advertise it, nor is it well labeled. At 
>>>> least it
>>> is still there.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Dane Trethowan 
>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Okay thanks for that, I found the iPhone icon in the Control 
>>>>> center, it
>>> was where you said on page two, would never have known about it had 
>>> you not mentioned it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> **********
>>>>> 
>>>>> Those with negative attitudes are a problem, those with positive 
>>>>> outlooks
>>> are the solution.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3 Oct. 2016, at 7:06 am, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can still get to the audio airplay in control center, 
>>>>>> although you
>>> might not know it because it's in adequately labeled. If you go to 
>>> "page 2, in your control center view, by doing the iOS page change 
>>> three finger flick, one of the things you will see in there with 
>>> other music controls is the announcement iPhone, assuming you were 
>>> using an iPhone. Or it might say iPad, if you're using an iPad. 
>>> Double tap on that, and you will see all the choices of whatever 
>>> other airplay and able audio devices you have. This is true for the 
>>> Amazon music app and the Apple Music app. I assume it's true in 
>>> general, although those are the only two I tried. Frankly, I like 
>>> the option of having the air play control it within the app. That's 
>>> how it used to be before they moved
>> it to control center. And I wish they would put it back.
>>> Or at least wish they would have the flexibility for app developers 
>>> to include that airplay functionality right in the main screen of 
>>> the app. That was the most convenient I thought.
>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 12:27 PM, Dane Trethowan 
>>>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Has anyone bothered to use IOS 10 with AirPlay?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm wondering if you've noticed what I have if you go into the 
>>>>>>> control
>>> center and activate AirPlay from there.
>>>>>>> On my iPhone I only see the option to Mirror to an Apple TV - 
>>>>>>> which I
>>> don't have at the moment - and I don't see an option to stream audio 
>>> to any other compatible device.
>>>>>>> The only way I know of to get around this is to go into the 
>>>>>>> Music App,
>>> launch the mini player view and select an AirPlay device from there, 
>>> a little annoying to have to perform that extra step but at least I 
>>> can still select my AirPlay device of choice in a roundabout way it 
>>> has to be
>> said.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> **********
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the
halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 



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