Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year. Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper, and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the firmware updates did address issues with the drive.
On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote: > Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan > Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware > and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that > PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is really > not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the 212 > as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in a > package. > I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said. > I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update it > more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is the > evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do > great work. > The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general is > very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things with > the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of > all. > Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon will > hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice memos, > voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is actually > so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to set > recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if something > is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better. > Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used are > there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. It > uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, and > customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. It > have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable > firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for > updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder > than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback > position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio, > e-books and daisy. > > On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote: >> The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now. I don't >> know why they can't solve the battery life issue. >> >> At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote: >>>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the >>>NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the >>>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16 >>>with prolonged use. The Iphone of course, is also excellent for >>>listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and >>>now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I >>>prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books. >>> >>>The problem is that we are slowly becoming pack horses, when you take >>>into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, >>>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine. >>> >>>Everything could be improved of course. The NLS players could solve >>>the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability; the Milestone >>>could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it >>>uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able >>>to save the text it scans, etc. >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Humberto >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Pc-audio >>>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos >>>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM >>>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> >>>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much >>>better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never >>>seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS >>>player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. >>>What with the app being on my phone. >>> >>> >>>On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: >>> > Hello Hamit: >>> > >>> > Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, >>> except as I said, that it does not have Wi-Fi. I also have a VRS but >>> one of the first generation. I do not use the Milestone for >>> recording except for emergencies, I have an Olympus DS-50 for that >>> and I normally do not record stereo, mostly monoaural voice. >>> > >>> > The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with >>> a grill in front, rather large for the size of the hardware, that >>> plays excellent sound, albeit mono; to hear stereo you must use >>> headphones, but either way the sound is remarkable for such a small >>> player. It also has FM radio. >>> > >>> > I normally use the NLS player to listen to >>> BARD books at home, but when travelling or otherwise away from home, >>> use mostly my Milestone, I prefer it due to size and clarity of >>> sound. >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > >>> > Humberto >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Pc-audio >>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos >>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM >>> > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> > >>> > Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the >>> > MileStone cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. >>> > This comming from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back >>> > out cause my DM420 died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for >>> > podcasts as it doesn't hold your place and also if you turn the >>> > sucker off it'll jump out of the folders. Wait why not use your >>> > Strattus you ask? Yeah during the day sometimes I do. But again I'm >>> > not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really wanted to replace my >>> > trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and services for the >>> > blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no more >>> > apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you >>> > send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo >>> > mikes with it? Thanks. >>> > >>> > >>> > On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: >>> >> I am amazed that during this long discussion >>> nobody has mentioned the Milestone, that Swiss machine with great >>> speaker sound that also plays NLS books and is much smaller than the >>> VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi? >>> >> >>> >> Humberto >>> >> >>> >> Humberto Rodriguez >>> >> Fort White, Florida >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: Pc-audio >>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Schindler >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM >>> >> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> >> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> >> >>> >> Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 >>> >> players with radios and recorders to in this price range, >>> but unless you have some vision >>> >> to read the menus they won't do you much >>> good. They have a small speaker and >>> >> a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary >>> >> input. >>> >> >>> >> The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders >>> >> too, not as good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you >>> >> have sight. If you don't have sight you pay handsomely for the >>> ability to have accessibility to >>> >> outmoded technology for a small niche market. >>> >> >>> >> If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be >>> >> buying the Victor Streams or Bookports at all. >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: Hamit Campos >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM >>> >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> >> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> >> >>> >> What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: >>> >>> Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking >>> >>> books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can >>> >>> get an >>> >>> MP3 >>> >>> player recorder for around $40.00 that has >>> a better sounding speaker in it >>> >>> and records MP3 and wave files much better, >>> but the caveat is that you are >>> >>> paying for accessible menus with the stream. >>> >>> >>> >>> The Hims may be a better all around unit, >>> but it costs twice as much money >>> >>> as the stream. >>> >>> >>> >>> Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played >>> >>> bard books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Skarstad >>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM >>> >>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org >>> >>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> >>> >>> >>> I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who >>> >>> enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky >>> >>> about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all >>> >>> the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one >>> >>> in the next few days and report my findings. I do think >>> >>> Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to >>> >>> be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players >>> >>> can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware >>> >>> of this and I'm certainly ok with it. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online >>> >>> services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and >>> >>> put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are >>> >>> multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: >>> >>>> Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The >>> >>>> Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> >>>>> Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to >>> >>>>> understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. >>> >>>>> Too late to try that here now <smile>. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> >>> >>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible >>> >>>>>> artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream >>> >>>>>> would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Regards >>> >>>>>> Tim >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan >>> >>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>> >>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did >>> >>>>>> note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave >>> >>>>>> files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. >>> >>>>>> So if one really wanted to do high >>> quality recordings one could use the >>> >>>>>> line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> >>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of >>> >>>>>>> high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor >>> >>>>>>> Pocket range. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Jamie >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On >>> >>>>>>> Behalf Of Dane Trethowan >>> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM >>> >>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Yep, convenient may be but the unit >>> does have its limitations as we’ve >>> >>>>>>> discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity >>> being a very serious limitation >>> >>>>>>> and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - >>> one wouldn’t really want to try >>> >>>>>>> and download a good quality audio stream. >>> >>>>>>> And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. >>> >>>>>>> Another interesting point and its not critical just an >>> >>>>>>> observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include >>> the ability to be able to browse >>> >>>>>>> NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? >>> >>>>>>> Just >>> >>>>>>> about every other device I know of >>> these days - that can play Internet >>> >>>>>>> radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon >>> >>>>>>> it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. >>> >>>>>>> Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR >>> Stream update though hHumanware >>> >>>>>>> take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will >>> >>>>>>> take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download >>> >>>>>>> <smile>. >>> >>>>>>> Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy >>> >>>>>>> about that. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> >>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> I love my Victor Stream. >>> >>>>>>>> The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and >>> >>>>>>>> locate internet radio stations. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On >>> >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Hamit Campos >>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM >>> >>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other >>> >>>>>>>> people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>> I'll be purchasing one of these very >>> soon, so will be able to report >>> >>>>>>>>> on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with >>> >>>>>>>>> Verizon Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering >>> >>>>>>>>> them to the player won't be an issue if the >>> download speeds on the player are as >>> >>>>>>>>> slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked >>> >>>>>>>>> that this is just now coming up, as the new >>> generation stream has been out for >>> >>>>>>>>> some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned >>> >>>>>>>>> sooner, but maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the >>> >>>>>>>>> market for one at that time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly >>> let you guys know my experiences. >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>> As to slow downloading of data, I >>> have noticed with ours, and those >>> >>>>>>>>>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great >>> >>>>>>>>>> wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, >>> >>>>>>>>>> it usually says that reception is poor. >>> >>>>>>>>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in >>> >>>>>>>>>> that little package. >>> >>>>>>>>>> Evan >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan >>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM >>> >>>>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi! >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make >>> >>>>>>>>>> comment on my purchase. >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for >>> >>>>>>>>>> what it is in most respects. >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled >>> >>>>>>>>>> however >>> >>>>>>>>>> - >>> >>>>>>>>>> having already heard a VR Stream - I >>> was already prepared for this, >>> >>>>>>>>>> a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I >>> >>>>>>>>>> use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker >>> >>>>>>>>>> I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity >>> >>>>>>>>>> the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product >>> >>>>>>>>>> can't have everythint. >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but >>> >>>>>>>>>> I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be >>> >>>>>>>>>> incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my >>> >>>>>>>>>> network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - >>> >>>>>>>>>> according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at >>> >>>>>>>>>> least the data does get downloaded I guess. >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the >>> >>>>>>>>>> VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the >>> Internet Radio, podcasts and so >>> >>>>>>>>>> forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better >>> >>>>>>>>>> solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't >>> >>>>>>>>>> the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of >>> >>>>>>>>>> Internet Radio and Podcasting. >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a >>> >>>>>>>>>> snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to >>> >>>>>>>>>> use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no >>> >>>>>>>>>> doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers >>> >>>>>>>>>> these days straight from the web site its good to know I >>> >>>>>>>>>> have a reliable backup. >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> --- >>> >>>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus >>> >>>>>>>> software. >>> >>>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> ********** >>> >>>>>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame >>> of mind will leave the rest of >>> >>>>>>> the halfwits in this world behind. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> ********** >>> >>>>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the >>> >>>>>> rest of the halfwits in this world behind. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Tim Noonan >>> >>>>>> Consultant Speaker Coach >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Phone: +61 419 779 669 >>> >>>>>> Email: t...@timnoonan.com.au >>> >>>>>> Skype: VoiceReadings >>> >>>>>> Twitter: twitter.com/TimNoonan >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Coaching & Consulting: www.timnoonan.com.au >>> >>>>>> Inspirational Speaking: www.visionarycommunications.com.au >>> >>>>>> Gemwater Bottles: www.timnoonan.com.au/water >>> >>>>>> Voice Readings: www.voicereadings.com >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> ********** >>> >>>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the >>> >>>>> rest of the halfwits in this world behind. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >> >> John >> >> >> > > > -- > Facebook: m.facebook.com/aidan.maher92 > Skype: andries4451 > Twitter: smarttalk7 > Audioboo: www.audioboo.com/DjSpotlight > > > > > -- Facebook: m.facebook.com/aidan.maher92 Skype: andries4451 Twitter: smarttalk7 Audioboo: www.audioboo.com/DjSpotlight
