Hi Fatai, 

One additional comment on that is when the constraint may apply to only
one occurrence of an object, for instance additional BANDWIDTH
constraint 
or in case of P2MP to ENDPOINT, it is additional work to define a vendor

format that take into account which occurrence of the object the
constraint
apply to.

In addition the grammar proposed in draft-ietf-pce-vendor-constraints-04

is not clear regarding to RFC6006 : should the <vendor-constraint-list>
also be present in the <end-point-rro-pair-list>?

The RFC6006 does also introduce a capability indication in the OPEN 
message, was this possibility considered the PCC/PCE to discover the 
supported vendor-constraints? Would it make sense or should the PCC 
try to use it on the requests?

Best regards.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: pce-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:pce-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> ext christian.kaas-peter...@tieto.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:54 AM
> To: zhangfa...@huawei.com; pce@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Pce] VENDOR-CONSTRAINT
> 
> Certainly.
> 
> The VENDOR-CONSTRAINT TLV could be formatted this way (similar to the
> VENDOR-CONSTRAINT object)
> 
>       0                   1                   2                   3
>       0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>      |             Type                |          Length             |
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>      |                       Enterprise Number                       |
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>      ~                 Enterprise-Specific Information               ~
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> 
> If only the VENDOR-CONSTRAINT object is possible, it is necessary
> somewhere in the VENDOR-CONSTRAINT object to give additional
> information, so that it is possible to correlate the contents of the
> VENDOR-CONSTRAINT object with other objects in the message.  By having
> a VENDOR-CONSTRAINT TLV, that TLV can be directly added to the object
> for which such additional information is wanted.
> 
> Examples of use of VENDOR-CONSTRAINT TLV are as follows.
>  * in PCNtf messages for vendor specific additions;
>  * in END-POINTS object, specifically the Generalized Endpoints object
> type,
>    with vendor specific additions
> The addition of a VENDOR-CONSTRAINT TLV would free me from picking an
> unused value for the Type.  The type I have picked is currently
unused,
> but may be assigned in the near future, and then follows the general
> problem of updating not just future software (which is simple), but
> also existing software already delivered to customers (which is not so
> simple).
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Fatai Zhang [zhangfa...@huawei.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 05:14
> To: Kaas-Petersen Christian; pce@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Pce] VENDOR-CONSTRAINT
> 
> Hi Christian,
> 
> Thanks for your comments.
> 
> Could you explain a little more about what are requirements for the
> VENOR-CONSTRAINT TLV?
> Why VENOR-CONSTRAINT object can not meet these requirements?
> How many (and which) objects should be extended to include VENOR-
> CONSTRAINT TLV?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Fatai
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: christian.kaas-peter...@tieto.com<mailto:Christian.Kaas-
> peter...@tieto.com>
> To: pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 2:26 PM
> Subject: [Pce] VENDOR-CONSTRAINT
> 
> draft-ietf-pce-vendor-constraints-04 describes a new VENDOR-CONSTRAINT
> object.  I should like the draft also to introduce a VENDOR-CONSTRAINT
> TLV allowing vendor specific additions to for example the END-POINTS
> object.
> 
> Christian
> 
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