Hi,

RFC8231 implementations do not need to be aware of this RFC's capability. Only 
for those wanting to support this new capability, they will follow this RFC.

As the capability is optional - not required for RFC8231 implementations - to 
me that's an "extension", not an "update".

Thanks!
Deborah


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Subject: Re: Martin Vigoureux's No Objection on 
draft-ietf-pce-lsp-control-request-09: (with COMMENT)

Hi Martin,

Thanks for your review, request authors to chime in as needed.

On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 3:23 PM Martin Vigoureux via Datatracker 
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> Hi,
>
> thank you for this document.
> This document indicates:
> "...MUST NOT trigger the error condition for unknown PLSP-ID in an LSP 
> update request as per [RFC8231] ...". "...MUST NOT trigger the error 
> handling as specified in [RFC8231] ...".
>
> Yet, it also says:
> The procedures for granting and relinquishing control of the LSPs are 
> specified in accordance with the specification [RFC8231].
>

Maybe we can add - "...unless explicitly set aside in this document."

> So
> 1/ it seems to me that the latter sentence, considering the first two, 
> is not strictly correct. 2/ the rationale is well described, so I'm 
> fine with not respecting the original rules of 8231, but then I wonder 
> if this document shouldn't update 8231.
>
>

I am not sure if this rises to the level of "update" (as I understand it and 
not taking the ongoing discussion on the topic); to me it is a normal extension 
of a protocol 'business as usual'!

I think maybe it is time for some AD guidance on this :)

Thanks!
Dhruv

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