Hi All,

I've come across another "shared" registry between this and another IDR
document that also needs some update to this document. Refer
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-safi-03.html#section-6.10

Request authors to please align the IANA section in this document also with
the above IDR document.

Thanks,
Ketan


On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 5:33 PM Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.i...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Dhruv,
>
> I've also posted my review of the document from the POV of consistency
> with SR Policy Arch and BGP SR Policy SAFI documents
>
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/xExbrHXRsC66fGUdy5wtvQlbXc4/
>
> I hope these help improve the document by providing a better overall
> context of these very important PCEP extensions for SR.
>
> Thanks,
> Ketan
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 7:46 PM Dhruv Dhody <d...@dhruvdhody.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike, Authors,
>>
>> Please make a new version of the I-D where you handle the following
>> items. We can then send the I-D to the IESG.
>>
>> (1) Please handle Ketan's concern and add the IANA note as he suggested -
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/ZaYof63GNYdplFUOLo6G6hJlx3c/
>>
>> (2) A few comments/query got missed, please update or respond if no
>> changes are needed...
>>
>> - Section 5.2, I am unsure about the interaction between the unsetting of
>> P-flag (PCEP speaker does not support the TLV) and the default value (128
>> when the TLV is not present). Isn't it a bit weird?
>> - Section 5.4, Should Oper/Config get a registry for ease of adding new
>> flags in future?
>>
>> (3) Some new comments on checking the diff
>>
>> - abstract, s/[RFC8231]/RFC 8231/ (no references in abstract)
>> - s/ANY/any/
>> - RFC 7525 is obsolete by RFC 9325, please update!
>>
>> (4) I am working on the shepherd writeup -
>> https://notes.ietf.org/HziLkaoxS6iYoQ3sOcwk-A?view ; will update in the
>> datatracker once you post a new version handling these.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Dhruv
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 7:40 AM Mike Koldychev <mkold...@proton.me>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dhruv,
>>>
>>> I've incorporated your changes and all the other comments that I have
>>> received so far. Hopefully I didn't miss anything. Version 15 is uploaded.
>>> Thanks a lot for your comments and updates!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 9th, 2024 at 8:23 AM, Dhruv Dhody <d...@dhruvdhody.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Authors,
>>>
>>> I have finished the shepherd review of
>>> draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-14. Please handle these comments
>>> before we ship this I-D to IESG.
>>>
>>> ## Major
>>> - Section 5.6, you need to add update: RFC 8231 in the draft metadata.
>>> This should also be captured in the abstract. The prefered way is to
>>> clearly identify the text in RFC8231 that is changing with "OLD:" and
>>> "NEW:" format!
>>> - Section 8, Security considerations need to also cover the non-SRPA
>>> TLVs which are not considered in the current text.
>>>
>>> ## Query
>>> - Section 4.1,
>>> ````
>>> If the PCC receives a
>>> PCInit message with the Association Source set not to the headend IP
>>> but to some globally unique IP address that the headend owns, then
>>> the PCC SHOULD accept the PCInit message and create the SRPA with the
>>> Association Source that was sent in the PCInit message.
>>> ````
>>> What is the purpose of this text? PCC should use the source as set by
>>> the PCE - isn't it given? Am I missing something? Boris also pointed this
>>> out in his review.
>>>
>>>
>>> ## Minor
>>> - Abstract is not very useful for a non-expert. Maybe change something
>>> like -
>>> ````
>>> OLD:
>>> A Segment Routing (SR) Policy is a non-empty set of SR Candidate
>>> Paths, which share the same <headend, color, endpoint> tuple. SR
>>> Policy is modeled in PCEP as an Association of one or more SR
>>> Candidate Paths. PCEP extensions are defined to signal additional
>>> attributes of an SR Policy. The mechanism is applicable to all SR
>>> forwarding planes (MPLS, SRv6, etc.).
>>> NEW:
>>> Segment Routing (SR) allows a node to steer a packet flow along any
>>> path. SR Policy is an ordered list of segments (i.e.,
>>> instructions) that represent a source-routed policy. Packet flows
>>> are steered into an SR Policy on a node where it is instantiated
>>> called a headend node. An SR Policy is made of one or more candidate
>>> paths.
>>>
>>> This document specifies Path Computation Element Communication
>>> Protocol (PCEP) extension to associate candidate paths of the SR
>>> Policy. It applies equally to the SR-MPLS and Segment Routing over
>>> IPv6 (SRv6) instantiations of segment routing.
>>> END
>>> ````
>>> - Similarly I find Introduction to be very light on details. Consider
>>> adding text by looking through recently published RFCs for instance.
>>> - Terminology:
>>> ```
>>> OLD:
>>> SRPA: SR Policy Association. PCEP ASSOCATION that describes the SR
>>> Policy. Depending on discussion context, it refers to a PCEP
>>> object or to a group of LSPs that belong to the Association.
>>> NEW:
>>> SRPA: SR Policy Association. A new association type 'SR Policy
>>> Association' is used to group candidate paths belonging to the SR
>>> Policy. Depending on discussion context, it can refer to the PCEP
>>> ASSOCIATION object of SR Policy type or to a group of LSPs that
>>> belong to the association.
>>> END
>>> ```
>>> - Section 4, please add this text at the start -
>>> ````
>>> As per [RFC8697], LSPs are associated with other LSPs with which they
>>> interact by adding them to a common association group. As described
>>> in [RFC8697], the association group is uniquely identified by the
>>> combination of the following fields in the ASSOCIATION object:
>>> Association Type, Association ID, Association Source, and (if
>>> present) Global Association Source or Extended Association ID,
>>> referred to as Association Parameters.
>>> ````
>>> - Section 4.2, since none of the TLV are multi-instance. Can we simplify
>>> this text -
>>> ````
>>> OLD:
>>> Unless specifically stated otherwise, the TLVs listed in the
>>> following sub-sections are assumed to be single instance. Meaning,
>>> only one instance of the TLV SHOULD be present in the object and only
>>> the first instance of the TLV SHOULD be interpreted and subsequent
>>> instances SHOULD be ignored.
>>> NEW:
>>> This document specifies four new TLVs to be carried in the SRPA object.
>>> Only one TLV instance of each type can be carried, and only the first
>>> occurrence is processed. Any others MUST be ignored.
>>> ````
>>> Also applicable to section 5!
>>> - Section 4.2.2, consider changing the SHOULD to MUST in this section. I
>>> could not think of a justification for SHOULD here!
>>> - Section 5.1,
>>> - please also state what happens if the TLVs are used without the
>>> exchange of SRPOLICY-CAPABILITY TLV or the corresponding bit is unset.
>>> Without it, what is the use of adding this TLV?
>>> - Consider updating the description such as "P-flag: If set to '1' by a
>>> PCEP speaker, the P flag indicates that the PCEP speaker supports the
>>> handling of COMPUTATION-PRIORITY TLV for the SR Policy."
>>> - please add "Unassigned bits MUST be set to '0' on transmission and
>>> MUST be ignored on receipt."
>>> - Section 5.2, I am unsure about the interaction between the unsetting
>>> of P-flag (PCEP speaker does not support the TLV) and the default value
>>> (128 when the TLV is not present). Isn't it a bit weird?
>>> - Section 5.3, should the use of this TLV be limited to SR-MPLS? Also
>>> can ENLP value be converted into a registery maintained at
>>> https://www.iana.org/assignments/segment-routing/segment-routing.xhtml
>>> which can be referred by both PCE and BGP?
>>> - Section 5.4, please add "The unassigned bits in the Flag octet MUST be
>>> set to zero upon transmission and MUST be ignored upon receipt." Should
>>> "Invalidation Reasons Flags" get a registry for ease of adding new flags in
>>> future? In general, can the text in this section be tightened a little bit?
>>> Examples - be explicit on who is sending and who is receiving for instance.
>>> Also, consider adding a more detailed example to show the usage of the
>>> flags better alongside PCEP message exchange.
>>> - Section 5.5, please add normative reference to
>>> draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid
>>> - Section 6.5, are you refereing to the registry at
>>> https://www.iana.org/assignments/segment-routing/segment-routing.xhtml,
>>> in which case it is called "Segment Routing" and not "Segment Routing
>>> Parameters". Also better to call the new registry being added as
>>> subregistry.
>>> - Section 10.2, please make RFC 8253 and RFC 7525 as normative
>>> references.
>>>
>>> ## Nits
>>> - Expand PCEP and SR in the title
>>> - Expand PCEP, SRv6 in the abstract
>>> - Expand MBZ on first use. It is also better to state that the field is
>>> ignored on receipt
>>> - Section 4.2.2, add reference to RFC 9256 for Discriminator, as you
>>> have done for other fields
>>> - Section 4.2.4, add reference to RFC 9356 for Preference
>>> - s/there needs to be a separate capability negotiation/a separate
>>> capability negotiation is useful/
>>> - Expand on first use OAM/PM/BFD
>>> - Section 6, please update the text in subsections where the number of
>>> assignments in tables do not match the introductory text.
>>>
>>> I am also attaching the updated xml that could be a starting point for
>>> you to work on -15 version.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Dhruv
>>>
>>>
>>>
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