Igor,

Are you saying that PCEP doesn't have any authentication?
If it doesn't it will have!

No way it will get through IESG review without that.

Adrian

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Rich,

My point is that path(s) containing PKSs will also contain address of the
ASBR, hence the PCC can issue a request to the PCC pretending that it is
the ASBR and resolve PKSs into explicit path segments. Your draft says
that this resolution is accomplished via a PCEP request, and my
understanding is that PCEP does not have any protection from such
impersonation.

Thanks,
Igor
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  Igor, thanks for the question.



  If I understand the question correctly, then a PCE which was configured
to supply PKSs to any PCC outside the AS would also be configured not to
decode the PKS for any PCC outside the AS.

  -- Rich






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  Hi,



  I'd like to know what prevents a curious/malicious PCC after receiving
form a PCE paths with PKSs to impersonate an ASBR and resolve the PKSs
into explicit segments?



  Thanks,

  Igor Bryskin

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    Dear WG,



    Just to let you know that a new ID has been posted proposing a simple
extension to the ERO to allow path segments in separate ASs to remain
confidential. There are indeed various circumstances that require
"encoding" a path segment in some form. I've included the abstract below.
Note that this ID may eventually be split to be discussed separately in
CCAMP and PCE but we prefer to start with a single ID first to be
discussed in CCAMP.



    Comments are very welcome.



    Thanks,

    Rich





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    A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
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              Title                  : Protocol Extensions for Signaling

                              Confidential Path Segments in Multiprotocol

                              Label Switching Traffic Engineering.

              Author(s)          : R. Bradford, et al.

              Filename           :
draft-rbradfor-ccamp-confidential-segment-00.txt

              Pages               :

              Date                 : 2006-3-1



    Routes for Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Paths

    (LSPs) may be computed by Path Computation Elements (PCEs). Where the

    LSP crosses multiple domains such as Autonomous Systems (ASs) the

    path may be computed by multiple PCEs that cooperate, with each

    responsible for computing a segment of the path.



    However, in some cases such as when ASs are administered by separate

    Service Providers, it would break confidentiality rules for a PCE to

    supply a path segment to a PCE in another domain. This issue may be

    circumvented by returning a loose hop and by invoking a new path

    computation from the domain boundary LSR during LSP setup as the LSP

    enters the second domain, but this technique has several issues

    including the problem of maintaining path diversity.



    This document allows a PCE to provide a full path, but to hide the

    contents of a segment of that path called the Confidential Path

    Segment (CPS). The CPS may be conveyed in the PCE Communication

    Protocol (PCEP) and signaled in a Resource Reservation Protocol

    (RSVP) explicit route either by replacing it with a path key or by

    encrypting it.





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