Hi J-P,

Regarding your proposal on the objective function/options not to be defined
in the PCEP-Version 1, I suggest to define the objective function object in
the PCEP-Version 1.  Unless there's base object definition, it would be a
little harder to be consistent across different applications and/or PCEP
extensions.  

For instance, in the PCE Global concurrent optimization I-D, the global
objective functions need to be defined. The authors have decided to define
the Global Objective Function (GOF) Object.  I can see each application or
extension would define its own Objective Function Object, which could result
in inconsistency moving forward. 

Regards, 

Young 





>    o  Allow to customize objective function/options
>
>    o  Support "unsynchronized" & "synchronized" objective functions
>
> Comment> The Proposal is to work on this item in the context of a  
> separate ID that will cover the set of requirements, IGP PCED  
> extensions and PCEP extensions since these functions are not  
> required for the base protocol specification.

I
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Dear WG,

In absence of negative reply we'll go ahead with the proposed plan  
below. Let us know within 1-2 weeks max if you have comments.

Thanks,

JP.

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> From: JP Vasseur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: January 24, 2007 11:38:04 AM EST
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> Subject: [Pce] Compliance with the PCECP Requirement Document
>
> Dear WG,
>
> As discussed in San Diego, there are still a few requirements  
> stated in RFC 4657 that PCEP does not satisfy (see Appendix A of  
> the PCEP ID) for which we'd like your feed-back:
>
>
> Appendix A
>
>    The aim of this section is to list the set of requirements set  
> forth
>    in [RFC4657] that are not satisfied by the current revision of this
>    document.  This only concerns the requirements listed as MUST
>    according to [RFC2119].
>
>    Here is the list of currently unsatisfied requirements:
>
>    o  Allow to select/prefer from advertised list of standard  
> objective
>       functions/options
>
>    o  Allow to customize objective function/options
>
>    o  Support "unsynchronized" & "synchronized" objective functions
>
> Comment> The Proposal is to work on this item in the context of a  
> separate ID that will cover the set of requirements, IGP PCED  
> extensions and PCEP extensions since these functions are not  
> required for the base protocol specification.
>
>    o  Protocol recovery support resynchronization of information &
>       requests between sender & receiver.
>
> Comment> We can see two potential avenues here:
> 1) Upon loosing the PCEP session, pending requests are considered  
> as lost, and the PCC has the initiative to resend the set of  
> pending requests. The main benefit of such approach is to be  
> extremely simple and IMO well suited to most of the cases since  
> path computation requests are not likely to be pending for a long  
> period of time.
> 2) Specify a set of re-synchronization procedures. We came up with  
> similar solutions for many other protocols (in very different  
> contexts and set of requirements) and our experience clearly tells  
> us that this will likely to be a fairly complex issue. We could see  
> some benefit in statefull contexts though; thus if such functions  
> is required for particular context, we would propose not to include  
> in the base protocol specification and leave it for further should  
> the WG think that such function will be required.
>
> Thanks for your feed-back.
>
> JP, Jean-Louis et al.
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