Paul has a point here. And well put sentiments! It is a question of a
browser mercy. I use icab a lot of the time (unfortunately not always,
because of some limitations) for viewing and testing web pages I make
because of the very nitpicky smily/not pleased/grim face which alerts one to
unkosher code. But it is slightly irritating to see its almost constant
disapproval when browsing on the internet even though the pages themselves
display as well as one might want. It would be infuriating if it went the
whole way in its disapproval and refused to display the page at all!

In other words: nice to have the alert, but also thankfully merciful of the
browser to relax and display unkosher coded pages anyways. However, there
are limits. The browser should not be expected to punt on some
interpretation when the code is seriously bad.

My experience with NS has been frustrating (6's loading time is
infuriatingly irritating for starters - a pun?), though I notice that the
last update to NS 6 made it a very capable browser, even handling things I
could not get other browsers to handle. I know the talk is of NS 7 but I
would be surprised if it was unforgiving of all unenclosed tags (it is in
fact  allowable in the standards not to close off say <p> with </p> and some
things like this even if this is frowned on in some circles)

As for the automatic coders Paul wants, they are all over the place and are
often the source of many errors which brings up this point: for quite some
time, we will need humans to code the code that the automatic coders use to
code web pages. In other words, someone needs to know how to write the
programs for the auto coders and check on how good a job they are doing.
Some people need to be able to write good code as a paradigm for the auto
programs to emulate. (Personaly, I hate them and write all my own - with
generous help from cut and paste from previous work. The only way I know to
get that icab face smiling much of the time! Take a look at some auto
generated code - it's often a nightmare of inelegance and if not right, hard
to correct ...)

David





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>Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 18:11:29 -0700
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Netscape 7.0.2


>Referring to Re: Netscape 7.0.2, at  18:20 -0500, 3/28/03,   (cbirds)
>eloquently, albeit succinctly,  elucidated:


>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] tapped out this message on 3/28/2003 6:17 PM
>>
>> All I see is blank. Nada.
>>
>> This is because Netscape, unlike IE, does not allow coders to leave HTML
>> with unclosed tags. In essence it prevents folks from using sloppy
>> coding......which is why I use it. If just one person has that happen
>> them, I wouldn't like it.
>>
>> So, write to the webmaster of the page and tell them.

>Naw, I'll just throw nutscrape away -- again. I'm not here to do anybody's
>work for them.

>Where do these guys get off with this nit-pickery? C'mon. ;-)

>Plus, not to be any more cranky, but that action by n-s doesn't do squat
>to sloppy coders. It just keeps me from seeing pages I want to see, sloppy
>coding or no sloppy coding. So who suffers? I ain't going to complain to
>the page owner, ees no my hob.

> Actually, if you think about it (I just did!) Good app-writing will make
>using that app as easy as possible. Putting in that kind of abitrary stuff
>is just a trifle arrogant and elitist, I think.

>Sorta like the teacher who gives you a zero on your research paper if you
>are one second late - no excuses, "You should have started earlier and not
>gone to the store for groceries when that guy was planmning to rob it."

>But what the heck, there's room for  everyone.

>And doncha think writing code could be automated? Why should anyone have
>to be  smart to write code? Isn't that what computers are for?  .-)

>Paul


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