My Reply follows quote. On 08/05/2005 10:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>>I don't think it matters whether one puches the CUDA before installing cards
>>or RAM or after, as long as it's done sometime while the Mac is powered
>>down. With a cleared chip, when the Mac boots, it checks the configuration &
>>writes the new data to its non-volatile memory.
>>
>>--
>
>When I caused the hubbub by saying "after" it was because I was
>concentrating on what seemed to be the statement that a hardware
>change was made with a CUDA push and then another change was made
>without a CUDA push and there was "flakey" behavior.
>
>And As I stated twice in the following days and will state a third
>time I should have more properly said "during" or when changing".
>
>But I stand corrected on the termination issue.  I have long thought
>that the CD ROM at ID=3 is terminated at the factory . This does not
>seem to be the case.  When I have time I will go through my saved PCI
>list posts and find out where i got this idea. As it seemed like
>gospel that was often repeated.
>And the rare occasions on which I did have by accident an ID beyond 3
>the startup and operation did indeed give problems.
>
>--
>Adrian
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Just for info, the following is from the "Technical Information" manual
for the 8500.

"IMPORTANT The factory-installed internal hard disk is terminated. If
another
SCSI device is attached to the internal SCSI interface, it must not be
terminated. The internal SCSI interface can contain only one terminated
device; if you attach more than one terminated device to the internal SCSI
interface, damage to the computer�s main logic board can occur."

Ken

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