Clint, I'm glad it's turned out OK.
One comment, I always run the command "fdisk /mbr" twice per
these suggestions, http://www.24hrsupport.org/fdisk.html .
Technically, it's an unsupported command. I'm just curious if
that's your procedure as well? That's how I learned to do formats
and installs.
And I always write-protect startup floppies. <shrug>
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 07:45:06 -0500, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Clint Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Greg, Peter & Ed, thanks for the replies, especially for the
>LLF. I did a LLF and that worked. I ran the WD LLF utility
>and 'wrote zeros to the drive', formatted using the win98 CD,
>installed windows AGAIN, scandisk and defrag worked fine. I
>also ran chkdsk again this time is WAS @ 16k clusters.
>Evidently the folks at WD didn't LLF this drive correctly the
>first time. (original problems this fixed are below in case
>anyone else ever has this problem).
>Thanks guys, :-)
>-Clint
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Clint Hamilton"
>
>No it's in the 'normal mode'. All periph's were in the orig.
>post, but since so many choose to <snip> orig. posts to
>death, all that gets lost. I pasted the orig. post below
>again (plus update). Yes, just the CD was used to format the
>first time. Haven't tried a LLF. Yes the drive & size is
>seen perfectly in all areas of windows (except recycle bin).
>Greg: Scandisk in DOS is fine, floppy is not protected (why
>would that matter?)
>
>Hi all, on a new PC for a customer here, I have something
>happening I've never seen before. I cannot run scandisk!
>when I try to run it, it says "not enough physical memory"!!!
>And NOTHING is running in the BG either! I have been
>searching for this problem and no surprise, all the links are
>bad at that idiot MS website! Using search engines all
>I have been able to find that is NOT about "quit programs
>running in the background...etc, etc" is for win95 and I
>don't understand it:
>----------------------
>SYMPTOMS
>When you try to run ScanDisk, you may receive the following
>error message:
>
>Your computer does not have enough available memory to run
>ScanDisk now. Quit some running programs, then try running
>ScanDisk again.
>
>CAUSE
>This error can occur if system policies have been enabled on
>the computer, and the profile for the current user includes
>the "Hide Drives in My Computer" restriction.
>
>RESOLUTION
>The "Hide Drives in My Computer" restriction must be disabled
>before the current user can run ScanDisk. Contact your System
>Administrator, or have someone with the correct privileges
>log on to the computer and run ScanDisk.
>----------------------
>
>I don't know what they are talking about there. Can
>anyone elaborate on that & tell me where this area
>is on win98 if at all? I have never seen it. I changed
>the memory settings in the BIOS and that didn't help.
>The pc shows the correct amount of RAM @ 128mb,
>and all resources are over 95%! At boot up there are
>98% system resources available. I tried another stick of
>memory, and the same thing happens. Mobo is FIC
>SD11, 750mhz slot A Athlon & 128mb RAM, OS is
>win98 and it was just formatted. I HAVE used these
>mobo's before and never seen this problem with any
>of them. Scandisk will not even run in safe mode!
>Defrag also will not run. No yellow marks in the DM.
>Scandisk CAN be run in DOS OK. The PC works
>perfectly, all drivers were installed w/o a hitch, it seems
>totally normal in every other aspect! Other devices
>are a Diamond S100 PCI sound card, DLink PCI NIC,
>STB Nitro II AGP video card. The mobo's drivers
>off the CD were the first things installed. HD is
>western digital Caviar WD172AA, 17.2gb, UDMA 66,
>2mb buffer. All components are new. "Power
>Management APM" is disabled in the BIOS. Have
>also tried manual memory settings, as well as auto
>by SPD.
>
>[addendum]
>The HD has been re-formatted using the windows SU
>disk, windows CD, and the WD format floppy with
>same results. Also does it RIGHT AFTER the
>windows install with NONE of the drivers yet installed.
> Regardless of format method used, cluster size is
>STILL 4096k! All cards have been removed leaving
>only the video card, same thing. Different video card
>used, same thing.
>
>I ran benchmarking programs; HD Tach, Sandra Pro, and
>FreshDiagnose, all were perfect. I've never ever had to
>manually set cluster sizes or anything for a HD for that
>matter, it's always done by "auto detect HD settings"
>in the BIOS. I tried a fixed size
>swap file @ 320mb, same thing. LBA is on, 32bit
>transfers, and FAT 32. I don't see anything in the AMI
>BIOS about the cluster size used. (Award DOES show
>cluster size though I THINK).
>
>The size of the HD is being shown correctly in 'my computer',
>'msinfo', DOS, and everywhere else except of course for the
>recycle bin (which on EVERY win98 PC I have EVER seen, shows
>1.99gb REGARDLESS of the size of the HD!!). On a new
>format, I installed Sandra Pro again, and it says the cluster
>size is 16k. Now I've never noticed cluster sizes before on
>any PC because it's NEVER been an issue before. So, if it
>must be 4096, then how or why did it get set to 16k?
>According to the link you sent, it states: "This issue can
>occur if you are running Windows on a hard disk that is
>larger than 8 gigabytes (GB) in size and has a cluster size
>LESS than 8 kilobytes (KB). This configuration may be created
>if you use a third-party disk tool to create a partition on a
>hard disk that is larger than 8 (GB) in size and has a
>cluster size less than 8 KB. " .........so that must not be
>the problem since it's set to 16k and no 3rd party software
>was used. ? According to the other text on that page, 16k is
>correct for a 17.2gb drive:
>
> Hard disk size Cluster size
> -------------------------------
> 16 GB and larger 16 KB
>
>Chkdsk was used after every format, to determine
>cluster size and it shows the cluster size ("allocation
>units") @ 4096K regardless.
>
>This statement is not correct:
>
>"The cluster size can be corrected by booting the computer
>with a Windows startup disk and reformatting the drive with
>the format program on the startup disk."
>
>I did that, and it still shows 4k cluster size for a 17.2gb
>HD. Something else odd, on MY pc, I have two 20gb ATA133
>drives on a RAID stripe (which is a total of only 20gb) and
>they have 32k clusters!
>
>Can't do a LLF, I run FDISK and it says: not a fixed
>drive present!!!
>-Clint
>
>God Bless Us All
>Clint Hamilton, Owner
>http://OrpheusComputing.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Peter Kaulback" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Are you by chance running in "compatibility mode"?
>What cards are installed on the system?
>Have you tried installing with only the vid card installed?
>So you have used the WD disk to format the drive, the windows
>su disk to
>format the drive, have you used the win cd to format the
>drive? I know it's
>tedious but I had a similar event installing win2k between
>the su disk's
>and the cd.
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