Ok, here's the latest. I found out more about this issue and the eventual "fix".
Can someone please tell me if you have your CDRW drive set to "enable recording on this drive"? This is for the Native XP burning app (right click the CDRW drive in "My Computer", "recording" tab, and you'll see the box there). Well, I DO have that box checked on my SP1 PC and like I mentioned I don't have this problem with it! **I UNchecked that box for the CDRW drive on the SP2 PC, and now the search works as it should!** Obviously, on SP2, M$ screwed things up when you check that box mentioned above in relation to searching CD's! I hope other's is set this way, yet does not have this problem, so that would mean it's just on this PC. IF not, I can't deal with that on SP2. Well, Ben just verified to me that his does this as well, so this is another SP2 bug. Strange thing is, when I nav to that CD Burning folder.....it's EMPTY! Yet, all the files show up in it in a search! (When that box is checked). I just found this info, which is BS: http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBK/tip5400/rh5485.htm since like I said, this doesn't happen on my SP1 computer. Plus, if you uncheck that box you'll no longer be able to record on the CDRW drive via the XP burning app, right? Hmmm, WRONG. I just unchecked that box, and as strange as it sounds, I can still record to the CDRW drive, WITHOUT having to turn on Adaptec/Roxio! How is this possible? I don't know if this is the case if Roxio ECDC is NOT installed as well. At any rate, in this particular case, it would seem the problem has solved itself. I can uncheck that box mentioned above, have the search function act as it should, and still be able to record to the CD even with no ECDC or DCD by Roxio even running. You can eject the CDR by right clicking the icon and "Eject". SP2 users may want to make a note of that. :-) If I had to guess, I'd say that maybe SP2 integrates 3rd party burning software into the XP shell? I restarted, and verified this is the case. It obviously MUST incorporate Roxio/Adaptec ECDC into the Native XP burning app/Shell since the Native XP CD burning app cannot delete files from a CDR disk, and I CAN delete from the CDR media, again, WITHOUT Roxio even running. Also when you eject, there is still no Roxio "eject CD" dialog, which is exactly how the Native XP burning app works. Apparently, it is ejected to read, (and with further sessions capable), on any other CDRW drive (I would guess as long as Roxio is installed). Note that this is with CDR media that was formatted using Roxio DCD. This is a definite plus for SP2 I'm happy to say. I verified it again by using a fresh CDR (on the SP2 PC), and I realized the CDR does NOT even have to be formatted by Roxio! This is another plus. I put the CDR media in, it opens, and I can immediately start to drag files to the media. When I'm completed, I eject the CD via either the icon, OR the button on the CDRW drive. I can put the CD in the CDRW drive of my SP1 PC, and it sees the file on the CDR. The disk however is NOT readable for some reason in a cdROM drive! So, now it's hard to say if what's going on here is Roxio, or the Native XP burning software. It appears, neither, since the CDR media won't read in a CDROM drive...maybe more so Roxio, since media WILL read in a CDROM drive when recorded by the TYPICAL XP Native burning 'ware. I also noted the CDR created by the SP2 PC can be placed in the CDRW drive of the SP1 PC, and files on the CDR can also be deleted there. So, SP2 is apparently doing something new to the media that will allow files on CDR media to be deleted even on SP1 computers. However on the SP1 computer, when you try and add files to that CD, it uses the OLD XP burning method of putting files in a temp folder, and you have to click the link "Write these files to CD" in order for them to burn to the CD....which DOES NOT WORK. Apparently one can DELETE from the CDR on an SP1 PC, but not ADD to the CDR. It gets better. If you need the CDR disk to be readable in a regular CDROM drive, I just verified that you can place this above created CD in the SP2 PC, then execute the Roxio DCD, right click the icon in the system tray, and "eject" and low and behold THIS ejected CD can then be read on a regular CDROM drive. Quite nice. Furthermore, you can take this CDR and add to it AGAIN, WITHOUT having to open and run DCD on the SP2 PC! I closed out of DCD, put the CDR back in the drive, and dragged a file to it with no problem, and it's back to the previous method of that new file being able to be read in the CDRW drive on the SP1 PC. If you then take that CDR and place it in the CDROM drive, the old file that was readable still is, but the newly created file is not, however it CAN be readable by ejecting it again using DCD on the SP2 PC. So here's the bottom line: totally seamless integration of a 3rd party CD burning app (Roxio) with XP SP2, WITHOUT the need to even execute the software (until you want to read the CDR in a CDROM drive). Unlike Roxio alone, no need to format the CDR as in Roxio, SP2 does it like it normally did on SP1; with one exception and that is you can delete files on CDR media. *CDR in CDRW drive, start copying immediately without the execution of any software to format nor to copy. Remove the CDR just as you would any pressed CD in any optical drive, no need to execute Roxio to eject the CD (as long as you'll read it again in a CDRW drive). Should the time arise when you need to read the CDR in a CDROM drive, execute DCD and "eject" via the typical Roxio method. If you need to write to the CDR again, it's back to *. A few notes: on my SP2 PC, that box mentioned above is unchecked, but it's checked on my SP1 PC. Unchecking that box on the SP2 PC fixed the issue of the search function problem when searching a CD in the CDRW drive (which is what this thread started out as). I only included SP1 PC data here for references purposes and out of curiosity to compare the two PC's. SP2 PC has a LiteOn 52327S 52x32x52 BurnProof & 2mb buffer, SP1 PC has a Teac 540E 40x24x48 BurnProof w/8mb buffer. ECDC = Easy CD Creator, and the version is "ECDC DVD/CD 6". DCD = Direct CD (the packet writing portion of ECDC). (Previous history is below). -Clint ----- Original Message ----- From: "Support-OrpheusComputing.com" I believe I may have found out what's going on with this search issue below, but WHY, I have NO idea or see how it's possible. Every CD I place in the CDROM drive is somehow being "added to some kind of CD burning cache" on the C: drive in the folder mentioned in the email below! I placed another CD in the drive other than the XP CD. I opened a folder in the root directory (a sub folder) then opened a "Readme" file and found something specific, then I searched for that specific thing by right clicking the CDROM drive icon and "Search", and put the words in the "A word or phrase in the file" area. Ok, it found the Readme file, but it says the location where it was found was (get this)... C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\CD Burning\then the correct **FOLDER** where the Readme file is located, but NOT on the CDROM, in the folder on the C: drive!! But, it's the SAME folder NAME! How the heck are the files on a CD being placed on the HD just by SEARCHING the CDROM drive??????? When I right click the found file and click "open containing folder" it goes to that exact location mentioned above on the C: drive! Yet, the status bar at the bottom of the search window gives the CDROM DRIVE PATH where the file is really located!! However, when I try and DELETE the file in the location mentioned above on the HD, it says "cannot delete, files on this CD are read only" !!! What is going on here?? Why is the search showing the location on the HD instead of the CDROM drive?? Can someone on SP2 please verify if this is "normal" behavior for SP2? I certainly hope not. If not, then might anyone know how to fix this? This happens on "Classic" search AND the default XP search layout. Thank you, -Clint ----- Original Message ----- From: "Support-OrpheusComputing.com" Here's something else I just noticed, it won't find sub files either! Like I said below, it will find the i386 folder if you search for it, but when I try to search for "default" (which is the first file in the i386 folder), it won't find it either....at least not on the CD. It shows it in the C:/Documents and settings/~~/CD burning/i386 folder! -Clint ----- Original Message ----- From: "Support-OrpheusComputing.com" Hoo boy, here's another one (and more to come). On the SP2 computer every time I search for something **on a specific drive**, the search is INSISTENT upon searching ALL drives, hard and optical! It even does it when you try and search a **CD** for something, and it finds things on the C: hard drive! Does anyone know how to stop this? I tried to search for ntdll.dll on the XP CD, and the SP2 computer wouldn't even find it! It instead found the files on C: drive! I put the CD in my SP1 PC and it found the files fine on the CD. (I'm having ntdll.dll crashes, that's why I have copy of the files on the C: drive in more than one area. That in another post). Why won't SP2 find what's WITHIN a CD? It will find the i386 folder for example, since that's the name of a folder, but it won't find files within .cab files for example when I search for "a word or phrase within a file", which is the only way to find ntdll.dll. I'm using "classic search"). Thanks for any info, -Clint God Bless Clint Hamilton, Owner http://OrpheusComputing.com ============= PCWorks Mailing List ================= Don't see your post? Check our posting guidelines & make sure you've followed proper posting procedures, http://pcworkers.com/rules.htm Contact list owner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribing and other changes: http://pcworkers.com =====================================================
