The realpath() is definitely related. If you start Pd using a relative path, like I do when doing dev work (e.g. make && ../bin/ pd), then sys_libdir will be a relative path. That means it is impossible to make absolute paths using sys_libdir, which is what I need to do to make [import] work, or loading libdirs with [declare - lib] and the libdir loader.
I can't see any problems that realpath() might cause. .hc On May 22, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > OK, I took most of the patch (not the "realpath()" call which seems > unrelated) and uploaded to SVN, unless I'm mistaken. > > cheers > Miller > > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 08:22:23PM +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote: >> >> I was looking into this a bit more, and from what I can tell, the >> canvas-local path (ce_path) is always relative to the path of the >> parent patch. Here's the commit for pd-extended that adds support >> for absolute paths: >> >> http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data? >> view=rev&revision=9862 >> >> Also, I submitted a patch: >> >> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? >> func=detail&aid=1917574&group_id=55736&atid=478072 >> >> .hc >> >> >> On May 19, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >>> >>> I think I fixed the full paths bug, here's the commit: >>> >>> http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data? >>> view=rev&revision=9856 >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> On May 19, 2008, at 8:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I think this issue is pretty clear, and the languages that I know >>>> would fall along the lines of "each patch/abstraction has its own >>>> namespace" or in other words "#include only affects the one .c >>>> file", "import only affects the one .py file", etc. So I agree >>>> with Frank. Global settings are global, and canvas-local settings >>>> are local to the original file. >>>> >>>> The "semi-functional" part is the full paths that Marius mentioned. >>>> >>>> Then the other question is how to use something like "#X declare"/ >>>> canvas_savedeclarationsto() in externals. I'd like to create an >>>> [import] modelled after Python's import does, so I'd like to use >>>> "#X declare"/canvas_savedeclarationsto() with it. >>>> >>>> .hc >>>> >>>> On May 19, 2008, at 6:33 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I use 'declare' all the time.. don't think it's semifunctional at >>>>> all. >>>>> I think the questions about how declares should act inside >>>>> abstractions >>>>> are hard to resolve; in my own usage (and in the way I suggest >>>>> others might >>>>> want to use declare) it's always in the main patch, as a way to >>>>> show the >>>>> patch what libraries, etc, it needs. >>>>> >>>>> cheers >>>>> Miller >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 06:28:31PM +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey, >>>>>> >>>>>> So I am diving into the whole canvas-local namespace and >>>>>> [declare] >>>>>> issue these days. I like the new "#X declare"/ >>>>>> canvas_savedeclarationsto() functionality, I think it could be >>>>>> useful >>>>>> for a lot of things. I was thinking of making an API to use >>>>>> it in >>>>>> externals, something like sys_register_loader(). I have two >>>>>> questions, first, how entrenched is the current behavior of >>>>>> [declare]? It currently is only semi-functional, and I think few >>>>>> people use it. >>>>>> >>>>>> The second is how to structure this for general use. I have >>>>>> thought >>>>>> of two ways: >>>>>> >>>>>> - make "declare" the key word and allow other objectclasses to >>>>>> have >>>>>> their own custom "#X declare" data. >>>>>> >>>>>> - allow objectclasses to register their own declaration key >>>>>> words, >>>>>> like [import] could have "#X import". >>>>>> >>>>>> The first would mean changing the behavior of [declare], the >>>>>> second >>>>>> could lead to a big mess... >>>>>> >>>>>> .hc >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> >>>>>> Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know >>>>>> how to >>>>>> realize his wishes. 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