> > This is IMHO the first valid argument against my suggested > > implementation you made so far and one I would agree with. > > This is because much of the rest was about peripheral issues such as what > you think of pd itself, what can be done about pd itself, and about the > wording you used against the current "raise all_cords". If that's late for > you, it's because your thread seemed to be about so much more than > the bug > in question. If you spend much of your mails talking about other issues, > then this is what you can expect to get.
<snip> > Ok, I thought that you were talking about the code structure, and not > the > identifiers. So I was looking at your dot pattern and trying to guess how > that could work. Another view of this correspondence would be that I was simply trying to clarify statements and bug-reports I made and which were challenged by your questions (and some would even argue insults). Of course, the fact you misunderstood what I said in response to one of your challenges certainly did not help either :-) I think as a contributor to a number of open source projects ranging from Linux kernel to ALSA to self-standing applications to an array of collaborative endeavors that fall outside CS domain, one of the greatest obstacles to a project's growth I found to be overly protective nature towards one's contributions or what some would portray as inability to separate one's ego from the interests of the project as a whole, as then any discussion pertaining to it can quickly flare up into a territorial crapshoot where people talk but do not necessarily listen. The very fact that we have agreed that the aforesaid problem and allied issues identified in this thread require a patch, many of which pertain to both vanilla and extended versions to me seem like a good opportunity to improve upon the software at everyone's benefit. Likewise, improving code readability is more likely to attract additional contributors. E.g. perhaps it may be a good idea to include structure casting for all pertinent identifiers you've kindly demoed a snippet of in your last email. I am first to admit that I am a weekend warrior when it comes to coding and as such am probably not the greatest C/C++ guru on the planet. Yet, the fact is that here I've offered straightforward reasons why the specific line was not a fix but a bandaid (something we've both agreed on) and perhaps more importantly offered solutions to some of the long-standing problems associated with the gui. I think all this could've been done with a lot less noise, once again at everyone's benefit. Best wishes, Ico _______________________________________________ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev