> In any case, the deepest meaning of &x->x_obj.te_gobj.g_pd as it could
> be
> documented is:
> 
>    /* I should have learned C++ */

Except that you would also arguably lose on efficiency, particularly when it
comes to encapsulation that Pd is designed around... Still, one could
re-title these to something more readable without affecting efficiency
and/or requiring moving away from C and that would go a long way towards
improving legibility, e.g. all_present_objects.cords.visible.

> Why hope?... "Rewrite" is just another name for not rewriting, "GUI" is
> just another name for less than half of the GUI, and hope is all too often
> a disease that makes one stand still.

So is 40 hours used for a task that should've taken a fraction of that...

Ico


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