-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/26/2011 06:52 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > IOhannes and I were discussing how to load shared code for a libdir on > IRC. The sticking point is that Mac OS X seems to require dylibs to > have a hard-coded path. IOhannes posted a test lib to try to work out > how to do it using DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH: > > http://iem.at/~zmoelnig/OSX/test.tgz > > So here are my results from Mac OS X 10.5.8: > > creating a [test] object: > ------------------------- > > /private/tmp/test/tmp/test.pd_darwin: > dlopen(/private/tmp/test/tmp/test.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable image > found. Did find: > /private/tmp/test/tmp/test.pd_darwin: unknown required load command > 0x80000022 > test > ... couldn't create > > > hans@dhcp-10 tmp $ ~/code/pd-extended.git/src/pd -noprefs -lib test > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ./test.pd_darwin: dlopen(./test.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable image > found. Did find: > ./test.pd_darwin: unknown required load command 0x80000022 > test: can't load library >
just to clarify a bit: the binaries posted under the link above were compiled under OSX-10.6, without any precautions for backward compatibility. they don't work on 10.5, nor 10.4 i also put the same set of binaries online, but this time compiled under 10.4, and they work and function as expected under 10.4 and 10.6 (and i expect them to work on 10.5 as well) on w32, the search paths for dll's should be modifiable via the %PATH% environment, whereas on linux (and most i think BSD and hurd) the envvar in question is LD_LIBRARY_PATH after the technical details, let's step back and have a look at what this is all about: the main motivation is to be able to bundle shared code and 3rd party libraries with externals. the dynamic linkers of the various OSs, will automatically search for dylinked libraries your external depends on, in various places (e.g. /usr/lib). this is great if you have an easy way to install the needed library into this place (e.g. a dependy-informed installer system like debian's "apt"). it's not so great, if you don't have such a system, and the user is expected to find and download the given dependencies and put them into your system's search path. even if an external ships with all dependencies, they still have to be installed in the "correct" places, which makes installation more complicated than just dragging a folder onto your desktop. why? because your OS's dynamic linker doesn't look for 3rd party libraries in weird places like a folder on your desktop. now the idea, hans and me came up with, was to make Pd tell the OS to look into those places. e.g. if library "foo.pd_darwin" gets installed into ~/Library/Pd/foo/, then it would be nice, if the dynamic linker would search for any depending libraries in the ~/Library/Pd/foo/ directory. likewise "bar.pd_linux" (installed in ~/my-externals/pub/) might have it's dependencies searched for in ~/my-externals/pub/. if both "foo" and "bar" depend on "libdudelsack", and both provide a "libdudelsack.dll" in their homedirectories, then of course we want both libraries to choose "their" correct one. so the idea is, to modify the automatic search path of the dynamic linker whenever a library is loaded. example: the user installs the "frotzel" library, by downloading it, and unzipping it into /usr/local/pd-externals/ now, if the user requests a new object [frotzel], Pd will search for a matching binary and eventually find frotzel.l_ia64 in /usr/local/pd-externals/frotzel/ before dlopen()ing this binary, it will read the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable, push it to some stack, and then add /usr/local/pd-externals/frotzel/ at the beginning of the LD_LIBRARY_PATH. it will then dlopen() the frotzel.l_ia64 binary, and the linker discovers, that it has to load the libknurbel.so library, which it will (magically) find in /usr/local/pd-externals/frotzel/ because all dependencies are fullfilled, [frotzel] will successfully be loaded and will work. after fortzel.l_ia64 has been successfully loaded, we no longer need to search for libraries in /usr/local/pd-externals/frotzel/, and therefore the original content of LD_LIBRARY_PATH is restored (popped from the stack). the exact name of "LD_LIBRARY_PATH" is system dependent, but it seems that LD_LIBRARY_PATH, DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH and PATH cover most systems. fasdmrt IOhannes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6Ax4MACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTbrQCePMZCWLbqBNAGe18J5Lbwj2a4 aLIAn25HcmduV4mJgMUG+dH/XOJHWjCL =07As -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev