I would hope that the GUI vs. audio engine separation for libpd would
be finalized
I think the GUI vs audio seperation has not even started yet :-)
However, I would agree that this is a very important long term goal, for
all the reasons you've listed.
Christof
On 15.07.2021 11:57, Max wrote:
Hi Miller,
I'm very enthusiastic about the FreeRTOS port, this would open so many
possibilities. I think FreeRTOS will run on the RPi too and possibly
also on the Teensy.
For the tooltips, I would hope that the GUI vs. audio engine
separation for libpd would be finalized so that alternative GUI
frameworks can be contributed. Thinking of the endless discussions of
fontsize and cross-platform rendering issues in Tk, maybe that effort
is better invested in taking inspiration from PurrDatas SVG rendering.
I think Pd would benefit from the ability to write custom GUIs ans
ship them like abstractions. That would close the gap to webaudio too,
which works already today via libpd and emscripten - just imagine the
possibilities of a native browser friendly GUI on top of it.
M.
On 13.07.21 19:22, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
(re-send - I had sent to [email protected] but that now seems to be
defunct...)
To Pd dev -
I'm going to try to get the next Pd release (0.52) out over the next
month
or two. My personal priorities for this release would be putting in
a message
backtrace mechanism (by overriding canvas_connect and pd_bind to go
through
small proxy objects; this will have to be done at load time I think) and
to go back and try to figure out how to do tooltips without adding
cruft to
the inlet structure. (There's an ancient source-patch to provide
tooltips
by Chris McCormichadn Guenter Geiger that I plan to start with -
https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/patches/264/).
Before doing that I want to do some reorganizing - in porting Pd to
FreeRTOS
(so I can run it on an Espressif LyraT board, which I think takes
only about
10 or 20% of the current that a Pi needs) I found out that I had to move
a few functions from one file to another.
This might break some PRs, so... first of all would be to identify
whatever
PRs are ready to merge so I can do that before I make incompatible
changes.
Of course "stable development branch" first... then Dan's soundfile
updates...
then what?
PS more ideas of mine (among many):
hot-reloading externs via a message to Pd
use a "unix binding" socket between Pd and pd-gui instead of localhost
generalize number/symbol box to allow displaying entire messages or
lists
cheers
Miller
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