Thank you so much for this! Hope the whole idea of a GUI-agnostic protocol achieves success (possibly avoiding a dispersive trend with scattered forks -- all of them usually very interesting! -- which end up straying too far from the original project).
Congratulations again! Em qui., 16 de mar. de 2023 às 18:04, Giulio Moro via Pd-list < [email protected]> escreveu: > Here's something the Chair and Bela teams have been working on for a few > months: a proof-of-concept web interface to Pd. > > https://github.com/BelaPlatform/pure-data-web-GUI > > This leverages the refactored communication protocol effort by Iohannes in > order to obtain a "toolkit-agnostic Core<->GUI Communication" ( > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/discussions/1695), which resulted > in https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1765 . This is part of a > broader project outlined in > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1693 . > > Now, this pure-data-web-GUI repo comprises three components: > > - pd: is started with -guiport so that it doesn't start its own GUI > - the "shim": a very thin layer of websocket that forwards messages > to/from Pd and the browser > - the "frontend": the actual HTML5 stuff, written using the svelte > framework. > > For now, you can try it out with docker following the instructions > included in the repo. The easiest way is to run it with the Pd it comes > with (which is run inside docker and thus doesn't have audio/MIDI I/O > capabilities), but you can easily connect it to your own Pd server instance > (assuming it comes from this branch > https://github.com/giuliomoro/pure-data-1/). The docker containers are > used to simplify the development effort, but ultimately this can be > packaged up in a self-contained app (even for Android, if required), or you > can have it run embedded (e.g.: on a Bela board) while displaying the GUI > in a web browser (which is actually our primary goal). > > It is by no mean complete or perfect, but I hope it shows that there is a > tcl-tk-compatible, non-tcl-tk future possible for Pd. As it is, it even > allows (well, with a lot of effort on the user side, but very little effort > was put into it from the dev side) to patch on a touchscreen. > > You may be wondering how this differs from the purr-data web GUI. Good > question. This is a complete rewrite and it aims to use "stock" Pd as a > backend server, by means of a communication protocol that has been > refactored (by Iohannes) such that Pd no longer sends out raw tk messages, > but rather tcl-compatible commands that are higher level and also easier to > parse in other languages (the parser here is written in js). So right now > you can run the same Pd binary (from this branch) deciding at runtime if > using a tcl GUI or a web GUI. Nifty. The aim is eventually to upstream this > communication protocol into vanilla, to make it easier to swap GUI > frontends. Hopefully this can eventually help other forks with custom GUIs > such as PlugData so that they don't have to maintain their own fork of Pd. > > Best, > Giulio > > > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >
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