Well, hopefully you can ignore the flamebait and we can have a fruitful discussion here. Let's get you compiling, if you follow the MinGW HOWTO, then post whenever you have a problem, I think we can get you compiling without too much difficulty. What is the last place that didn't work?

On Nov 10, 2006, at 4:38 AM, Damian Stewart wrote:

sven wrote:

@damian (2): what's wrong with the pd-win32 binaries available?

1) midi crashes, which I could figure out and fix for myself, if I could compile from source 2) my entire rig tends to triple its cpu usage for no apparent reason after a quasi-random length of time, which seems to be a vaguely repeatable error, which I would like to compile from source to figure out

These ones are always the hardest to find, but if you can find a way to trigger it, it'll be much easier to fix.

3) line doesn't have a right outlet that it bangs on completion, which I could fix myself if compiling from source; yes I know I could just build an abstraction but that's not the point

What's wrong with an abstraction? Bang-on-complete does sound like it might be useful, but that doesn't have to be implemented in C.

4) tooltips on inlets, which i could and would add myself, if i could compile from source

There is the tooltips patch out there, Miller wasn't opposed to including it, he just didn't like the way the current one was implemented. Günter said it would not be too hard to fix the tooltips patch so that Miller wouldn't object, but I don't remember the details. There is some discussion in the patch tracker about it.

5) just random crashes, which i could try to investigate/fix myself, if i could compile from source (i have a significant amount of commercial software development experience tracking down extremely obscure crashes in c/c++ code)

Let's get you compiling then! It would be awesome if we got some bugs fixed.

6) i want to write my own gui objects (to match or exceed those that come with max/msp) but i don't have a pd.lib and since i can't compile from source i can't make my own, so actually i can't write my own gui objects.

AFAIK, you don't need pd.lib to compile with MinGW. Using MSVC, you just have to compile one, its the .lib version of pd.dll.

.hc

basically, i want to use pd, and would be willing to put up with its idiosyncracies if i could compile it myself and make changes i felt were necessary where they were necessary. however, i can't compile it from source, and every time i try i get either shouted at, told that the windows version isn't really supported, or helped for a few steps and then given up on when it becomes clear that it's not a simple newbie problem i'm suffering, and is rather something fundamentally broken about the administration of the windows source.

in the end i realise that i'd much rather be making music, and dealing with this kind of crap really isn't making music.

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