Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Ideally, having the whole package doesn't get in the way of newbies > starting out with the basics. If it does, that should be fixed. > Once it is installed, then newbies can start to explore thru all the > examples after the workshop and see where it leads them. That's a > key part of my philosophy here: enabling the spirit of play and > exploration.
I think, basically we aren't that far away from each other: The large number of examples in pd-extended of course is like a collection of texts for the students to study and learn from. And of course in my workshops, I do use pd-extended, let alone because it's the only available collection of externals. (I still would like to have it a bit more customizable instead of being so monolithic, and I believe the help-files are too "chatty", but that's another story.) But my main point is this: You can learn what [route] means, you can learn how [list prepend] works. But you only learn how to "speak" Pd as soon as you understand what this means: "something" [0\ | | [list prepend 2] | [route 0 1 2 3] | | | | | With pd-extended it's tempting to just use [demux 4] instead but then you wouldn't have gained a deeper understanding of the language, you would only know another word. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ _______________________________________________ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
