On Oct 27, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 17:48 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> On Oct 27, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 12:02 +0200, Enrique Erne wrote: >>>> On Oct 27, 2007, at 5:56 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> in order to work with pd-ext i had to rename some object in chat >>>>>> and >>>>>> netpd-gui i.e. [l2s] to [zexy/list2symbol] or [netclient] to >>>>>> [maxlib/netclient]. >>>>>> is renaming zexy , maxlib objects with namespace the correct/ >>>>>> only way >>>>>> in pd-extended? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> hm, i didn't test myself, but since you are using pd-0.40 >>>>> (extended or >>>>> not) zexy and maxlib and stuff should be loaded by [declare]. i >>>>> think >>>>> currently they are only loaded as externals, which means, for >>>>> extended >>>>> we would need to add them as pathes as well (with '-stdpath' >>>>> instead of >>>>> '-stdlib'). could you test, if that works? there is no way in >>>>> renaming >>>>> all the objets. >>>> >>>> most of them could be replaced with list-abs :) >>>> >>>> i tested if [list2symbol] could create and reloaded a test patch >>>> with >>>> >>>> did not create: >>>> import zexy >>>> declare -path zexy >>>> declare -stdlib zexy >>>> declare -stdpath zexy >>>> declare -path >>>> /Applications/Pd-0.40.3-extended-20071026.app/Contents/Resources/ >>>> extra/ >>>> zexy >>>> declare -stdpath >>>> /Applications/Pd-0.40.3-extended-20071026.app/Contents/Resources/ >>>> extra/ >>>> zexy >>>> >>>> did create: >>>> import zexy/list2symbol >>>> declare -stdlib zexy/list2symbol >>>> >>>> on osx 10.3.9 (it's an old cat) with Pd-0.40.3- >>>> extended-20071026.app >>>> >>>> >>>> but again. i want to know the official way to load an external in >>>> pd-extended. who can answer this or where is it documented? >>>> >>>> the readme says "By default, most of the included libraries are >>>> loaded >>>> at startup." >>>> >>>> if import is the way to go what about all helpfiles, do they >>>> need to >>>> get updated in order to work? >>> >>> in case of netpd, it's not worth to think about [import] at all. >>> netpd >>> won't use it. >> >> Any particular objection to [import]? It's an external like any >> other. If you use list2symbol, etc. because it solves problems, I > > the main objection is that it is an external, that has an > equivalent now > in plain pd. why use an external then?
If it made your life easier somehow, otherwise no. > and i didn't know that it is simply an external, i thought it would > only > work with pd-extended because of some adapted code there. is that > wrong? Yes, it's just an external, but it doesn't work with versions of Pd older than 0.40.2. .hc > > roman > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// > messenger.yahoo.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- All information should be free. - the hacker ethic _______________________________________________ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list