> How about also checking out if there would be any other alternative to  
> Tcl/Tk? It's still quite slow, and some not so uncomplicated things (like  
> a gui element in a gop) take lots of cpu for what they give.

a lot of this has nothing to do with TCL/Tk being slow, but PD using C string 
manipulation to generate Tk commands..then piping them over the client<>server 
socket. many times a second, per object, in the audio thread. etc..

if you do similar things in HTML/JS/XUL you'll find them even slower than Tk, 
and using 10-100x the RAM. at least w/ firepig. 

imo the biggest prob with [widget] is that the widgets were only 'alive' when 
that subpatch was physically on the screen. so some combination of tclpd and 
[widget] that has 'offscreen' mode which still allows data pass-thru and TCL 
execution would be an improvement...


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