Have you tried menubar 0 attached to gemwin?

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: minimize mac (Max Neupert)
   2. Re: minimize mac (hard off)
   3. Re: hide menubar on Mac OS X/Pd-extended.app (marius schebella)
   4. Re: minimize mac (marius schebella)
   5. Re: Fun with Lua coroutines (Frank Barknecht)
   6. (no subject) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   7. Re: minimize mac (Mathieu Bouchard)
   8. a job posting for Paris (David Schaffer)
   9. VBAP, pd-extended, OS X - or distributing players among a
      ring of speakers (David NG McCallum)
  10. Re: minimize mac ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 13:41:59 +0100
From: Max Neupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PD] minimize mac
To: Hans Roels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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(my) pd windows have a yellow minimize (minus) button in its window bar.
but pd uses the minimize command (Apple + M) for the message window  
instead, so there is no shortcut for it AFAIK
sometimes there are no scroll-bars allthough there should be. but  
that gets resorted as soon as one resizes the window a bit.


Am 02.11.2007 um 11:38 schrieb Hans Roels:

> hello,
> I am used to a windows computer but I have to work on Mac (OS X
> 10.3.9) with PD-vanilla (40.2) installed. Often I can't scroll to the
> bottom of a big pd-patch, what is the trick to see every part of a
> patch in Mac? can you minimize or maximize the windows in PD on Mac?
> I tried command + M and these kind of tricks but nothing works, PD
> also doensn't have a - or + button in the title bar to
> minimize/maximize the window.
> I guess there must be a special Mac-trick to solve this... it's very
> annoying now!
>
> hans r



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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:05:21 +0900
From: "hard off" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PD] minimize mac
To: "Max Neupert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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i feel your pain mate,

i have a mac, and sometimes i get other people's patches, and the
bottom corner of the patch goes below the bottom of the screen and it
is impossible to resize.

the workaround i use is to copy the entire patch into a new window and
'save as'

if there is a real solution, then i have never heard about it, but i
have my doubts that it can be fixed with the current way pd is
implemented.



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:10:57 -0400
From: marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PD] hide menubar on Mac OS X/Pd-extended.app
To: Alexandre Quessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi alexandre,
I am not sure, if there is such a feature included, but I can help you 
with what I think is the most recent build of os x 10.3;
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=55736&package_id=76013
marius.

Alexandre Quessy wrote:
> Hi ! Nice to read you.
> 
> Talking about the [menubar -1< message to [gemwin]
> 
> 
> It only works on pd-extended Mac OS X 10.4, and not 10.3, it seems.
> Tested on both today. Or, maybe it is only that the build is too old
> to have that patch in. Is there a pd-extended or Gem build that has
> this feature ? Maybe I should compile it, but installing the build
> tools and the libs is not easy as on Linux. :)
> 
> So, will I have to install Tiger, or is there a quicker workaround ?
> 
> Thanks,
> a
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2007/7/12, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Doh!  I didn't know that...  it would be nice if such things were
>> documented.  Currently:
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ > grep menubar ~/code/pure-data/Gem/help/*
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ >
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2007, at 12:57 PM, chris clepper wrote:
>>
>>> [menubar -1( should be the equivalent of what Hans posted.  [menubar
>>> 0( can lock out the mouse and keyboard.
>>>
>>> [border 0(  will remove the title bar if that shows.
>>>
>>> On 7/11/07, Max Neupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> why so complicated if
>>>> [menubar 0(
>>>> just works?
>>>>
>>>> Am 11.07.2007 um 15:21 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>>>>
>>>>> If you've ever wanted to have Gem be full screen on the primary
>>>>> screen, I
>>>>> have found a way.  It's called "LSUIPresentationMode".  Basically,
>>>>> using
>>>>> Property List Editor.app, open Pd-extended.app/Contents/
>>>>> Info.plist.  Add a
>>>>> "New Child" to "Root".  Call that node "LSUIPresentationMode",
>>>>> change the
>>>>> data type to "Number" and set the data to be "4".  Then when you
>>>>> launch
>>>>> Pd-extended.app, the Menubar and Dock will auto-hide themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some other modes:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/
>>>>> BPRuntimeConfig/Articles/PListKeys.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/
>>>>> 20001431-113616
>>>>>
>>>>> .hc
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:16:39 -0400
From: marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PD] minimize mac
To: hard off <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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hi,
one possibility is, to open the patch with a texteditor
and edit the first line
the 5 numbers are offset x/y, size x/y, fontsize.
#N canvas 20 20 800 600 10;
marius.

hard off wrote:
> i feel your pain mate,
> 
> i have a mac, and sometimes i get other people's patches, and the
> bottom corner of the patch goes below the bottom of the screen and it
> is impossible to resize.
> 
> the workaround i use is to copy the entire patch into a new window and
> 'save as'
> 
> if there is a real solution, then i have never heard about it, but i
> have my doubts that it can be fixed with the current way pd is
> implemented.
> 
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:56:40 +0100
From: Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PD] Fun with Lua coroutines
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Hallo,
Steffen Juul hat gesagt: // Steffen Juul wrote:

> Ah, ok. It was especially the 'BibTex fashion' that got me curious.  
> Now i know what you mean by 'fashion'. I think. There is no nesting  
> in BibTeX for what i know of though.
> 
> All that blah blah said i think what your write about the structured- 
> ness is a good thing, as it allows for a (BibTeX kinda) way of  
> handling/doing multi diminutional arrays even with strings as keys.
> 
> - Which in a PHP fashion could be like:
> 
> Instruments[bass][tb303][cutoff] = 10
> Instruments[bass][tb303][cf] = 440
> Instruments[drumm] = drummset1
> 
> Patterns[p1] = "1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1"
> Patterns[p2] = "0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0"
> 
> Score[bass] = p1
> Score[drum] = p2

A nice thing with Lua would/could be that many entries actually could
be code. For example one could define harmonic voices in the config
file as functions like: 

  function major7(n) return {n, n + 4, n + 7, n + 10} end

and use this with the instruments: 

  sax(major7(60))

or 

  c = major7(60)
  sax.play(c)
  trumpet.play(c)
  c = minor7(62)
  sax.play(c)
  ...

I don't know if it makes sense to write a general purpose file loader
around this, but I plan to do some examples of this approach.

Ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht                                     _ ______footils.org__



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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:30:01 -0700 (PDT)
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Sometimes this happens here on ubuntu too. Quite annoying.
Resizing does not always help.
What I do then is CTRL+a and SHIFT+arrow-keys to move the contents of the
patch.
= Slow if its a big patch.
Dividing your big patch into smaller subpatches is better I guess.

Tim

marius schebella wrote:
> hi,
> one possibility is, to open the patch with a texteditor
> and edit the first line
> the 5 numbers are offset x/y, size x/y, fontsize.
> #N canvas 20 20 800 600 10;
> marius.
>
> hard off wrote:
>> i feel your pain mate,
>>
>> i have a mac, and sometimes i get other people's patches, and the
>> bottom corner of the patch goes below the bottom of the screen and it
>> is impossible to resize.
>>
>> the workaround i use is to copy the entire patch into a new window and
>> 'save as'
>>
>> if there is a real solution, then i have never heard about it, but i
>> have my doubts that it can be fixed with the current way pd is
>> implemented.
>>
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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:58:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mathieu Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [PD] minimize mac
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Sometimes this happens here on ubuntu too. Quite annoying.
> Resizing does not always help.
> What I do then is CTRL+a and SHIFT+arrow-keys to move the contents of the
> patch.
> = Slow if its a big patch.
> Dividing your big patch into smaller subpatches is better I guess.

Usually on Linux you can resize a window by dragging with Alt+Button3 
(right button of mouse) but some window managers set it to Alt+Button2 
instead (wheel button or thumb button) and some allow to reconfigure the 
"Alt" part to something else (e.g. Windows key or Menu key)

What do you mean, "resizing does not always help"?

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:12:43 +0100
From: "David Schaffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PD] a job posting for Paris
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Hi everibody, 

    I came across this Paris Based Max/Pd programmer job offer on the web 
today, those of you with C++ knowledge might be interested:

http://www.irma.asso.fr/offre15092.html



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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:32:17 -0400
From: David NG McCallum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PD] VBAP, pd-extended, OS X - or distributing players among
        a ring of speakers
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hi!

I was trying to get VBAP working in OS X from the latest pd-extended and
I seemed to get all sorts of errors that indicated that VBAP is broken
in this release.

Defining loudspeakers gives the error:


error: vbap: no method for 'loudspeaker-matrices'


... which seems kind of weird.

[vbap] also seems to have only one inlet. Is that correct?


At any rate, what I'm trying to accomplish is to distribute several
channels of audio evenly over several speakers (actually, a ring of
speakers, to the first and last speakers should share some of the
soundfield space). At this point, the number of speakers can be fixed,
but the number of channels needs to be variable to accommodate an
unknown number of performers.

Any thoughts about the brokenness of VBAP or solutions to distributing
the audio?

Thanks!
D!




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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:21:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PD] minimize mac
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>
> What do you mean, "resizing does not always help"?
>

Resizing the window doesn't always cause a scrollbar to appear.
Tim

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