On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 13:36 -0500, marius schebella wrote: > The gui has to be a mixture of both,
"bamm.. here i am and i know _exactly_, what needs to be done... " i like your diplomatic way ;-) > 1) providing style options for > programmers who want to make use of it and 2) the possibility to view > patches also in old "text-only" black and white style for users that are > distracted by too much new technology and design. I think it is similar > to web browsing. If you don't want style-sheets you always can use lynx. > For Pd to finally become a tool that can be used to create instruments > that will be shared, I see no other possibilty than to go with some > enhancements. > I don't see any movement from Miller into that direction (to conjure up > style features), I simply think, there is no possibilty to get > additional style information into patches. that given, the > "enhancements" are limited anyway. Maybe someone has to come up with an > alternative objectbox-style that provides all the style settings. (like > number2 or comment from cyclone). or maybe it is possible to create a > wrapper object that does the same like any objectclass itself, but with > additional layout-information. > But, who is willing and able to do the work? ... So all that talk is > going 'poof'. You want to create a patch to share? now you are changing the topic. as far as i understood, hc initial efforts were going into finding ways to improve pd's appearance from a programmers perspective. the ideas wasn't to change the appearance for fancy guis for fancy patches. > Use something > different for the interface and run pd -nogui. here i think you are _very_ wrong by saying this. have you ever used datastructures? have you ever had a look at netpd? especially at syntax_the_nerd's bon-* patches? have you ever had a look at the gop abstractions of pdmtl? not to mentionen all the stuff that i forgot to list here? roman ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de _______________________________________________ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list