In real time? Can that be done? On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Andy Farnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Write them to a text file then import them. > > On Tue, 6 May 2008 22:54:54 -0400 > "Hugh Sung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We're having a neat discussion about this in the Pure Data forum now: > > http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-1686-fiddle-piano > > > > jon2211 came up with a neat patch that demonstrates how well fiddle~ > > recognizes notes played on a piano within a given range, triggering a > key > > text output. Another poster showed an example of modifying that to > trigger > > with envelope/volume changes. Of course, we're still stuck with how to > port > > the key stroke messages to an external application. > > > > Would someone be willing to write up a python script that can intercept > Pure > > Data text echoes and forward them to other concurrently running > > applications, like PowerPoint or Word? This is the missing link in the > > puzzle - heck, i'd even be willing to pay someone if they could come up > with > > a useful workaround! > > > > Keeping my fingers crossed... > > Many thanks as always! > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:11 AM, Olivier Heinry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Le Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:50:33 -0400, > > > "Hugh Sung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > > > > > Python might bring you the right solution: > > > > > > http://www.rutherfurd.net/python/sendkeys/ > > > > > > You can either send your letters/keystrokes from inside pd using the > pyext > > > external that loads your python script > > > > > > or send messages via OSC to a python script that implements the ixi > > > software simpleOSC lib > > > > > > http://www.ixi-software.net/content/backyard.html > > > > > > ++ > > > O. > > > > > > > > > > Here's one scenario i'd like to see: > > > > > > > > 1. Pedal assigned [PgDn] keystroke within Liquid Media, which > triggers > > > > scene change > > > > 2. PD outputs letters A-Z, depending on either volume or pitch > > > frequency > > > > ranges input from audio source (microphone into acoustic piano) > > > > 3. A given scene within Liquid Media would then interpret the > > > PD-generated > > > > keystrokes and trigger image events based on letter key "depressed" > by > > > PD. > > > > > > > > You'd have the ease of image generation (a la Powerpoint) with the > speed > > > and > > > > power of PD to map the sound of acoustic music. Just my newbie > > > imagination > > > > going here. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Hugh Sung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > The pedals basically operate as programmable usb keyboard > extensions, > > > > > where you can custom assign any keystroke to any pedal (up to 12). > > > I'm > > > > > hoping that by assigning a certain set of keys to the pedals and > > > reserving > > > > > the rest for PD to control that everything can simply work > together, > > > if PD > > > > > can output keyboard letters/numbers. Everything would run from > the > > > same > > > > > computer. Again, please forgive me if i sound completely ignorant > > > regarding > > > > > what's possible with PD... > > > > > Many thanks again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Andrew Turley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The [fiddle~] and [bonk~] objects should let you capture all of > the > > > > > > information that you are looking for. As far as getting that > > > > > > information from Pd to Liquid Media, that may be the tricky > part. > > > Your > > > > > > current pedals are sending keystrokes straight to Liquid Media. > Do > > > you > > > > > > know if there is a way to control Liquid Media via MIDI > messages, or > > > > > > some sort of message sent via a socket connection (maybe OSC)? > If > > > so, > > > > > > then you might be able to use Pd to capture your pedal input and > > > then > > > > > > combine that with the information from [fiddle~] and/or [bonk~] > to > > > > > > send the appropriate information to Liquid Media. If the only > way to > > > > > > control Liquid Media is through keystrokes, then you might need > to > > > > > > write some software that intercepts the keystrokes from the > pedals > > > and > > > > > > changes them depending on what is going on in Pd. > > > > > > > > > > > > andy > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Hugh Sung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I'm using a presentation program called "Liquid Media", sort > of > > > like > > > > > > > Powerpoint on steroids. Up to this point i had been using > > > multiple > > > > > > foot > > > > > > > pedals assigned to different keystrokes to trigger visual > cues, > > > like > > > > > > video > > > > > > > clips, animated GIFs and the like, during live classical music > > > piano > > > > > > > recitals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to incorporate the dynamic capabilities of realtime > > > visual > > > > > > sync, > > > > > > > with the ability to easily "change the scene", as it were. > i'm > > > hoping > > > > > > that > > > > > > > someone can help me come up with a combined solution where PD > acts > > > as > > > > > > an > > > > > > > audio trigger controller, triggering keystroke events based on > > > pitch > > > > > > ranges, > > > > > > > dynamic peaks and rhythmic events, and Liquid Media accepts > those > > > > > > > PD-generated keystrokes to trigger correlating visual cues. > Each > > > > > > scene > > > > > > > would comprise of specific trigger-able events, and the foot > > > switch > > > > > > would > > > > > > > allow for a manual "change of scene". i'm hoping to > accomplish > > > two > > > > > > things > > > > > > > with this combined approach: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. make it a little easier to incorporate visuals synced to > audio > > > > > > events > > > > > > > 2. allow for easy scene transitions, to better compliment the > > > > > > "narrative" > > > > > > > structure of classical compositions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this makes sense...thanks all for your input so far! (and > > > > > > patience!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Dan Wilcox < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for forwarding keypresses and mouse events to an > application > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have done this in Windows to control FLStudio (aka > > > FruityLoops) by > > > > > > > sending menu events and keypresses through python windows > > > scripting, > > > > > > > pywinauto, and osc in python. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have info and code on my website. It should still work > but > > > it's a > > > > > > bit > > > > > > > old (2006) and I don't use Windows anymore. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 13:05 -0400, marius schebella wrote: > > > > > > > > fiddle~ comes with pd (look in the "extra" folder), there is > a > > > help > > > > > > > > patch that will explain how it works. > > > > > > > > hope this helps. > > > > > > > > marius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hugh Sung wrote: > > > > > > > > > i'm not familiar with that program - can you provide a > link to > > > > > > fiddle~, > > > > > > > > > or any other program that can easily do what i'm looking > for > > > with > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > the various parameters? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:50 PM, marius schebella > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hugh Sung wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, this isn't for speech recognition - i'm trying > to > > > come > > > > > > > > > up with a simple way to use key triggers to activate > visuals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example: if the piano plays A440, i'm presuming PD can > be > > > > > > > > > configured to recognize that pitch with a microphone input > and > > > > > > > > > then echo out a text string - the letter "A", perhaps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in that case, you best use fiddle~. what's the other > program? > > > does > > > > > > > > > it accept network communication? then you can send the > letters > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > tcp or udp connection (netsend). > > > > > > > > > marius. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Hugh Sung > > > > > > > > > www.hughsung.com <http://www.hughsung.com> > > > > > > > > > www.TabletPCMusician.com <http://www.TabletPCMusician.com> > > > > > > > > > www.musicmeetstech.com <http://www.musicmeetstech.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > Dan Wilcox > > > > > > > > robotcowboy.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Hugh Sung > > > > > > > www.hughsung.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.TabletPCMusician.com > > > > > > > www.musicmeetstech.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > > > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Hugh Sung > > > > > www.hughsung.com > > > > > www.TabletPCMusician.com > > > > > www.musicmeetstech.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Hugh Sung > > www.hughsung.com > > www.TabletPCMusician.com > > www.musicmeetstech.com > > > > > -- > Use the source > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- Hugh Sung www.hughsung.com www.TabletPCMusician.com www.musicmeetstech.com
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