Michal Seta wrote: > Hi Atte > > The best way to start using memento is to get a patch that works, copy > and paste the guts into your own and adapt. That is, providing that > memento works at all on your system. There is a guide on footils.org > that should get you started with the ideas behind the system. It > works fine for me (I don't have pd handy right now so I cannot offer > any specific pointers). > > An alternative is apparently part of the pdmtl abstractions > http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions > > I saw a presentation on if bu have not yet tried it. It is, arguably, > simpler to adopt than memento.
Both seems complex, and although I appreciate RRADical's (which it seems memento is part of) "paradigm", I'm still quite new to PD and would like to make a few mistakes and learn a few lessons before I "just" adopt someone else's approach. However, http://footils.org/cms/show/1#persistence suggests that two, more basic, options exist: state and pool. 1) State. I can instantiate it in my 0.40-3extended-20080628 (under linux), but there's no state-help.pd anywhere. Where can I read about it? The above link mentions it "only saves gui", I might want to save content of table/arrays, is that not considered "gui"? If not, is there an obvious and therefore elegant of saving guis + tables/arrays with state? 2) Pool. I have the pool-help.pd file, but I cannot instantiate pool, isn't that part of pd-extended? I tried downloading it and compiling it myself, but failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/music/synth/pd/externals/pool$ bash /usr/lib/pd/doc/manuals/flext/tutorial/build.sh linux pd gcc bash: ../build.sh: No such file or directory Obviously I have no clue about using flext, could someone help me getting this working? At the end of the day, what would be the best bet, state, pool, memento or pdmtl? I should note that what I'm trying to do is work out some abstractions for live electronica, and now I need a way to save piece1.pd and another_piece.pd which contains one or more instances of one or more of my abstractions, complete with gui settings and all. If I could just press "save all this, so everything I loaded in this patch is exactly the same when I open it again" I'd be sooo happy :-) -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list