On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Matt Barber wrote:

I think this might underline how useful it would be for those of us who use vanilla Pd to have some symbol manipulation tools in vanilla,

It's useless to underline it more than it's been underlined before. Just stop using vanilla. This fixes the problem.

Games like you've done can be fun though. I've had fun with the [list-drip] speed hacks in february. But it was only a game. In real life I use [foreach], which is written in C++, and it works fine and faster than what's possible to do as a regular Pd patch. The game was only for testing limits and demonstrating unusual techniques (i mean techniques that are unusual in the context of pd; they may be commonplace in some other programming language).

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