--- On Fri, 2/12/10, Roman Haefeli <reduzie...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> From: Roman Haefeli <reduzie...@yahoo.de> > Subject: Re: [PD] Alias an internal with an abstraction > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancs...@yahoo.com> > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 10:21 AM > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 09:40 +0100, > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 18:39 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes > wrote: > > > Hi Andrew, > > > > > > Thanks, but that doesn't help so much with with > the max to pd conversion. If I made it an external, I would > be able to use it to > > > replace the internal, right? > > > > I _think_ that this is not possible with Pd <= > current versions. > > To correct myself: Since 0.42 or so there is way for > externals to > override internals. > Personally I find it was wrong to implement this 'feature' > without > providing a mechanism for a patch to protect it from using > externals > that override internals. This really can make debugging > hard and writing > portable patches impossible. > > IIRC, there is even a documented case on the list, where > someone posted > a patch, that was working only on some computers because a > slight > difference between Pd's [wrap] and zexy's [wrap] and only > on *some* > machines zexy was installed and did override Pd's internal > [wrap]. Isn't this is a problem with the way libraries have loaded by default in Pd-ext (I think there's been a long thread about that but I haven't followed it)? I don't know much about zexy's [wrap], but this seems a documentation issue rather than a bug-- whether it's at load time or in the docs, at some point zexy needs to say, "Greetings, gentleman. All your [wrap] are belong to us." Or maybe Pd needs to say "All my [wrap] are belong to zexy." If I have a bunch of objects in folder "maxwise-abs," and I tell Pd to add that folder to the path, it is extremely likely (99%) that I want the abstraction to take precedence over the internal. (Granted I currently only have one object in that folder but I just started...) -Jonathan > > Roman > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de > > _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list