Oh yes, and another thing is that I want eventualy to use microtonal intervals too. I believe that using those programs as a midi interface doesn't work for that, am I right?
2010/11/5 Caio Barros <caio.bar...@gmail.com> > João: what you are saing sounds good, but in that discussion I could hardly > see how that object works. > > Bernardo: That looks awesome and is almost in the same direction I had in > mind (I was definetly thinking in CAC programms) too bad article doesn't > have a download link, I wonder if that program can output data besides > taking it and transforming into notation. > > Lorenzo: that makes sense but I don't know how to do it, this can be of > great great help but I still think that an object inside Pd would be much > more confortable. Like Marcus Bittencourt say in the article, the idea would > be to incorporate some CAC tools into Pd and ultimately make a free, > open-source tool for both things. > > I could make those calculations i'm doing using another program (at the end > it's all just numbers) but, first, the program I know best is Pd, and > second, I like to use a tool made for music to do musical calculations. In > my oppining the thing is that this kind of interface is much more human > friendly (at least musicianship friendly) and makes the interaction more fun > and visualization of the problems easier. > > Just to put it in a context, what i'm doing right now is buiding a patch to > calculate the harmonic nets (or harmonic networks, I don't know what is the > best translation), a composition technique created by the belgian composer > Henri Pousseur. At the moment this patch is too much crude for me to share > it, besides being writen in portuguese, my native language. When it is more > presentable I'll show it, but i'm very happy with the results so far. > > Caio Barros > > 2010/11/4 Lorenzo Sutton <lsut...@libero.it> > > This is an interesting topic... but just to give you another >> direction/point of view, as I'm not sure exactly what your final aim is. You >> can hook up any jack-aware program that does notation to Pd via midi (for >> e.g. Rosegarden or even MuseScore) this, can be both ways (Pd could send >> midi data to these programs, for example to do the algorithmic "assisted >> composition" stuff). >> Not sure if anything of this makes sense to you. >> >> Lorenzo >> >> Caio Barros wrote: >> >>> Hello guys. >>> I've been dreaming about an object that would display musical notation >>> and output data (like midi numbers for instance). >>> I found a discutions about something like that here in our list ( >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg19969.html) but this was a >>> discussion about creating live musical notation for performance, and what I >>> have in mind is something more like a Computer Assisted CompoResearch tool. >>> If i'm not mistaken Open Music and PWGL (http://www2.siba.fi/PWGL/) >>> already have something like this. >>> >>> Look at the images I made of how this object would look like: >>> - The input would be a message with the midi number of the pitch, and the >>> object would display a Treble or Bass cleff with the note and output the >>> number of the pitch through the outlet (cleff_pd_01.png). >>> - It would be possible to alterate the pitch by holding and dragging the >>> mouse (cleff_pd_02.png) >>> - Chords could be made... (cleff_pd_03.png) >>> - or melodies... (cleff_pd_04.png) >>> - or even sequences of chords. (cleff_pd_05.png) >>> >>> The output could easily be transformed into notation for lilypond, for >>> instance (like Collin Oldham did in that thread I mentioned). >>> >>> Do you think it's possible to do something like that? At the moment I >>> don't have the money to pay a programmer to do that (I would happily do it >>> if I could). Maybe I can learn how to do this, but I don't know where to >>> start. >>> I already see some complications to build this object: >>> - it would have to stretch itself so the chords and melodies would fit; >>> - It would have to decide what cleff to use (or maybe not, the user could >>> send a message like [treble<); >>> - There should have a way to choose between flat and sharp; >>> - A nice thing would be to have more than one staff at once, like a piano >>> staff for instance, and so on... >>> >>> For now I'm just wondering if something like this could be done. I've >>> been doing some calculations of composition techniques using Pd and I miss >>> musical notation so much. >>> >>> Bye! >>> Caio Barros >>> >>> Bonus: I made an abstraction to transform midi note to pitch name and >>> also frequency as a part of a bunch of composition tools I use. (and after I >>> read those threads about creating the notation object in GEM I discovered >>> that some people already did it, but here it go anyway). see midi_note.pd >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > >
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