Oh no, not again... 2011/3/19 Mathieu Bouchard <ma...@artengine.ca>
> > sorry, my following reply sat a long time in my email account. > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, ailo wrote: > > I guess what I meant was, can we define music generally so that everyone >> can agree on what is the definition of music? >> > > Well, if «everyone» also includes those people who purposefully want you to > fail at coming up with a unanimous definition, you can't. There are also > those who just won't listen to you because they are busy preparing the > answer « it can't be defined. period. » without any explanation (they don't > enjoy explanations any more than definitions, anyway). > > I know I can generalize for myself, but I think I can't do it for >> everyone else. >> > > There are also problems of common meaning of the words, whereby people will > accidentally agree or disagree because they have different impressions about > what you mean with the words that you used for writing the definition. > > I suppose people like to avoid it mostly because it can discourage >> people to do their own thing. >> > > I would rather bet on this phenomenon : > http://www.google.ca/search?q=%22art+can%27t+be+explained%22 > > Which is more of the mystical mindframe of non-explanations and > epistemological hopelessness. > > By extension, the word « art » is often used to mean whatever skill is > considered unexplainable or mysterious. > > If we need to do it for a specific practical purpose, then we have no >> choice. >> > > A definition of art needs not dictate a single purpose, and a single > purpose does not dictate a single approach, and a single approach does not > dictate a single outcome. When you acknowledge a definition of art that just > tries to be vaguely universal, you still have plenty of decisions to make. > > A definition of art needs not to be dumb like « music is whatever Beethoven > was doing and that can't be done anymore because he died » or « we play both > kinds of music : Country and Western ». > > Words like beauty and ugliness are commonly used. When we say, I like ugly >> things, does that make these things wrong? [...] >> > > (I didn't know what to reply to the rest of your email.) > > _______________________________________________________________________ > | Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >
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