On Jul 17, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Sat, 7/9/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> wrote:

Try getting a patch into the Linux kernel,
that'll make Pd seem like cake ;-)

Yes, I would hope that making changes to the core of the largest free software project in the history of computing is a wee bit more difficult than making changes to Pd.

It's easy to use the Linux project as a reference, to justify that submitting changes to Pd ought to remain hard and that things are just fine as they are now. After all, the Linux project is a well- respected success story, nevermind that it's a project so different from pd in many ways.

Just more expressions of millercentrism... nothing to see, move along...


Think about why it remains hard. Managing patches is a lot of work, and its not fun, unless the patch happens to fix something that you want fixed. This is almost all work on people's own time.

Start a fork, git makes it much easier. Then you can have your own version that includes every patch that you want it to. DesireData was a great effort, pd-devel too. Pd-extended is another example, as well as pd_l2ork. If we all use git forked from Miller's pure-data git it makes keeping in sync vastly easier than before. Git has a steep learning curve. Take 2 days to really study and learn it, and it will save you vast amount of time tracking code and bisecting for patches.

Having multiple forks in rough sync all working with git means that more patches get accepted, written, tested, etc.

.hc


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