Interesting test results. It would be quite nice if Tcl/Tk handled the window placement for non-PatchWindows. Part of the problem there is that the .pd fileformat stores the location of the windows, and therefore Pd explicitly places the windows using those coordinates. That might be related here, but maybe not.

As for Test 3 & 4, that's not Apple that properly places the patch window beneath the menubar, that's code in 'pd-gui'. Check out pdtk_canvas_new in pdtk_canvas.tcl.

.hc

On Aug 29, 2011, at 1:03 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

Test1:
Gnome 3 (Fedora 15) -- no problems
Gnome 2.32.0 (Ubuntu Maverick) -- no problems

OSX 10.7 -- problem: window decoration behind Apple's menubar.

Test2:
Tried a little stand-alone version of my plugin. Still specifying 0 0 screen coordinates, and

Apple automatically puts the ".search" window below the menu bar, as it does for everything

else I've ever seen in OSX except this issue.

Test3:
Tried any number of my PDDP help patches, which all have 0 0 specified as the coordinates

for the patch window. Again, Apple does the right thing and shifts it down an appropriate amount.

Test4:
Tried to fool wish on OSX into putting a toplevel underneath the menubar. Can't do it.


Hypothesis: Something isn't set correctly in pd-gui, but all I can see (at a glance) are options

that have nothing to do with window position, and some variables: menubarsize and windowframey.

-Jonathan



----- Original Message -----
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at>
To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancs...@yahoo.com>
Cc: Mathieu Bouchard <ma...@artengine.ca>; pd-list List <pd-list@iem.at >
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin update


0 0 is problematic on couple platforms. On Mac OS X, the menubar is always there, so it puts the window header behind on menubar. A similar problem
happens on GNOME.

.hc

On Aug 25, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

Ok, fixed the weird resizing issue when the text in the status area is
larger than the window.

  Fixed search window to appear at 0 0 on when it's first created.


  Fixed font sizing bindings.

  Fixed minimum font size.

  -Jonathan



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at>
  To: Mathieu Bouchard <ma...@artengine.ca>
  Cc: Jonathan Wilkes <jancs...@yahoo.com>; pd-list List
<pd-list@iem.at>
  Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 5:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin update


  On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

  On Sat, 6 Aug 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

  - on Mac OS X Cmd-Shift-= (i.e. Cmd-+) is the standard key for
  increasing the size of the text.  Currently, its Cmd-=.

It will break on keyboard layouts that are not QWERTY or that are
heavily
  modified QWERTY.

When I designed some things in the default DD keyboard bindings, I
only had
US keyboard and CF-family keyboards in mind (french QWERTY used in
  Québec) and then someone notified me that I couldn't
distinguish
Alt+Shift+1 from Alt+1 because 1 is already shifted in AZERTY (it's
  Shift-&, whereas & is not shifted).

  German QWERTZ has = on Shift+0 and * on Shift++, meaning + is
unshifted ;
however, Swiss QWERTZ has + shifted as Shift+1, and then there are
other QWERTZ
  than that...


  It'd be something to test, Cmd-+ might work as a keybinding, and
would then
  work on other keyboards.  Or perhaps you can just bind to both
Cmd-Shift-+ and
Cmd-+. For other platforms, its not a big deal since the keybindings
are not
very consistent. On Mac OS X, they are quite consistent across OS and
apps, so
  people notice wrong bindings a lot more.

  .hc


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