On Sep 6, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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From: fbar <f...@footils.org>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 3:53 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] (breaking symbols) was Re: find a list of numbers
in a text file
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 09:44:33AM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
I'm not sure what "appears in the patch" should mean. It
definitly means
that numercial-symbol selectors don't get shown and cannot be
written
into a patch, so you cannot use them in the editor where "real"
selectors should be written, like in [route].
Forgot to add: Of course it is possible and legal to "use" numerical
or
non-printable symbols as selectors, but they have to be constructed
dynamically and cannot be typed, in accordance with the restrictions
mentioned in the manual. Instead something like this can be used:
[makefilename %d]
|
| [makefilename %d]
| |
[select symbol-dummy]
I used [makefilename %d] a lot in the rj library's [m_chorddict]
dictionary for chords, where some chord names are proper symbols,
like
"m7", while others are floats like 7. The float-names get converted
to
symbols internally to look up chord notes in a data structure array
keyed by symbols only (using [m_symbolarray]).
At what point are you using numerical-symbol selectors? Everything
you've
described has the selector 'symbol'.
If you mean you let the user send symbols or floats as the key and
convert
internally, that's _exactly_ what I'm proposing.
I guess I'm not clear on your proposal. Is it that a "symbol"
selector automatically converts things to a symbol? That makes a lot
of sense, and would help with other issues. Then you could also make
symbols with spaces, like:
[symbol 43(
[symbol /home/hans/My Documents(
etc.
A quoting mechanism would also help. We could probably get away with
only \. For example, \ for spaces, like:
[symbol /home/hans/My\ Documents(
[symbol I\ like\ lots\ of\ \ \ \ \ spaces(
[symbol commas\,\ in\ symbols(
[symbol semi-colon\;\ in\ symbols(
And last but least, and its already in there:
[symbol \43(
[symbol \-21343(
[symbol \-0.2e59(
Anything that just \ couldn't cover?
.hc
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