I replied on the pdweb list. If anyone is interested in the working on the website, that's the place for the discussion on that topic.
.hc On Feb 11, 2012, at 5:45 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: > Hans, you're right I'll add some projects myself, to start with. > I'm still keen to work on the css, but last time I got no answer about access > privileges to the plone platform. > > I'll get this on the web list and try again, > IOhannes, shall we try something about it? > > cheers, > Marco > > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> wrote: > > It would be great if someone took on making the website nicer. The framework > that's there is pretty solid, it just needs someone to come and give it the > finishing touches. Some of this can be broken down into many little tasks. > In the past year or two, I've been working on trying to make the website more > like a wiki, and a bit easier to navigate, and that does seem to have gotten > people to use it more, and contribute. Here are some things i can see that > anyone could take on: > > - pick a page you know something about (you don't have to be the expert), and > clean it up > > - add projects to the exhibition! http://puredata.info/exhibition Marco, > you could add Jaime's project, for example. The only rule we made for the > exhibition is no self-promotion, you should only post things that you had > nothing to do with. Here is how anyone can add to the exhibition: > http://puredata.info/docs/sitedocs/AddingToTheExhibition > > - CSS/Plone template work for the exhibition, make the exhibition look nice > wit things like showing inline images, more interested layout, etc. > > - CSS/Plone template work to make the whole site look cleaner > > .hc > > On Feb 9, 2012, at 6:59 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> it's a pity nobody is taking on the important issues advanced by Max. >> >> I see this actually fitting in a general refrain (and I include myself here) >> to discuss topics like: our Pd "flagship" website gives people a unnecessary >> hardship, or the social network culture has since long time now changed >> drastically the way we share on the web, and it does affect the way we >> promote and talk about Pd. Even if we don't want to care about it. >> >> Is is surely a long and perhaps painful discussion to draw upon, but I think >> it is needed at this point. >> We can also leave things take their drifts, which is ok, but why can't we be >> pro-active also at this level? >> >> I'm not sure about the demographic issue Max reported, as I see my and >> other's courses always very well participated, along with a fairly good >> dynamics taking place on the various collective platform on the web. >> However, it is a fact that we are inflicting ourself and our community a >> gratuitous pain in terms of sharing, distribution and self-teaching >> infrastructure. >> >> I'm the first who's always too busy to really take on this issues when >> somebody else points them out, but sometimes I wonder what would happen if >> we could be able to gather a 10% of the energies we spend developing stuff, >> and use it to improve once for all the way Pd appears on the web (meaning >> here, the way loooots of cool documentation material is overly underused >> because it can't be easily reached, the way how the plone website literally >> scare newbies, and also the fact of avoiding constructive comparisons with >> other open communities out there, like the processing one which does an >> amazing work in this sense). >> >> Pd is used by many developers, artists and so on. There are incredible works >> out there who earned prestigious prizes (see for instance Jaime's at FILE >> and Guthman Instrument Competition), new frontiers for interactive, mobile, >> and biosensing techs are being open only thanks to Pd, and you know what? >> The 80% of the people I talk to (also practitioners) don't even know about >> it. >> >> Imho, this is very wrong, and most importantly, dangerous for the good sake >> of our community. >> >> I'm aware this has been discussed far too many times, but we all could >> benefit a lot from a new and useful web appearance and all things related. >> >> So the question now becomes, how can we elaborate a collaborative strategy >> to build a proper web platform, which would emphasise the work of our >> developers and creators rather than hiding it? and how can we think of a >> communal approach to make easily available all the knowledge that sits in >> scattered instances all around the web? >> I'm sure Pd will live far longer than me, but why don't we make a little >> effort to gather more devs, creators and thinkers around us y simply getting >> all our efforts clearly visible? >> >> hope somebody else feel the same as me and Max and would feel like further >> the conversation. >> >> cheers and thanks, >> Marco >> >> >> >> >> >> When I find artist like Lukas Buschfeld presenting his prints printed by a >> custom large scale dot matrix printer which is programmed in and run by Pd >> entirely (plus a little Arduino) I'm stunned. Look at the prints: >> http://lucasbuschfeld.com/index.php?cat=graphic >> >> In an attempt to improve the first impression you get when checking out Pd >> I've been experimenting with vimeo gathering Pd based works in a group: >> http://vimeo.com/groups/puredata/ >> >> When you look at a few other OSS Audio related softwares i find their >> websites to be very clear and well structured >> http://musescore.org/ >> http://www.iannix.org/ >> http://ardour.org/ >> >> Now compare. It's a great ressource but plone can certainly look nerdy and >> cluttered: >> http://puredata.info/ >> >> I'll leave it at this hoping to spark a little discussion on the list now >> for example about how Pd can become more attractive in our very own interest >> not to loose a future user base not only for the next convention. Also I'd >> be interested to hear where the next convention will take place ;) >> >> MN >> >> >> -- >> Marco Donnarumma >> New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. >> ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) >> The University of Edinburgh, UK >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com >> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | >> http://www.flxer.net >> Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net >> _______________________________________________ >> [email protected] mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free software > means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls you." - Richard > M. 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