Hooray! On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:29 PM, richard duckworth <richduckwo...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Congratulations Marco! Well done! > > Rich Duckworth > Lecturer in Music Technology > Department of Music > House 5 > Trinity College > Dublin 2 > Ireland > > Tel 353 1 896 1500 > > > It's the most devastating moment in a young mans life, when he quite > reasonably says to himself, "I shall never play The Dane!" > ------------------------------ > *From:* "pd-list-requ...@iem.at" <pd-list-requ...@iem.at> > *To:* pd-list@iem.at > *Sent:* Monday, 20 February 2012, 10:54 > *Subject:* Pd-list Digest, Vol 83, Issue 108 > > Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to > pd-list@iem.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pd-list-requ...@iem.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pd-list-ow...@iem.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. (no subject) (Miguel Eduardo Venegas Monroy) > 2. Re: [PD-announce] Xth Sense awarded first prize first prize > at Guthman Musical Instrument Competition (Lorenzo Sutton) > 3. Re: vbap speaker position not correct? (Christoph Kuhr) > 4. Re: floating-point question (Lorenzo Sutton) > 5. Re: vbap speaker position not correct? (Roman Haefeli) > 6. Re: new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta! > (?ngel Faraldo) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 01:15:36 -0800 > From: Miguel Eduardo Venegas Monroy <miguelvmon...@gmail.com> > Subject: [PD] (no subject) > To: pd-list@iem.at > Message-ID: > <CANskRV0ekX1Njf=NUbyyrCeiuxj9FYdhx=5hegs8n3fi6ew...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Final proyects with pure data. > > > > https://picasaweb.google.com/113390089057293315237/PureData_Febrero_ProyectosFinalesBang > > [gemhead] > | > | [40] > |/ > [rotateXYZ] > | > [cube] > > [create< > | > [pd gemwin] > > > i send you a other pictures of workshops on Ensenada. > > https://picasaweb.google.com/113390089057293315237 > > :) > > thanks alot > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20120220/c1c44b24/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:51:30 +0100 > From: Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsut...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Xth Sense awarded first prize first > prize at Guthman Musical Instrument Competition > To: pd-list@iem.at > Message-ID: <4f4217a2.1020...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > > Congratulations Marco! > > Ciao, > Lorenzo. > > On 19/02/12 15:28, Marco Donnarumma wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > I'm coming back to Europe in few hours, but wanted to share this news. > > > > > http://www.gtcmt.gatech.edu/news/marco-donnarumma?s-xth-sense-named-world?s-most-innovative-new-musical-instrument > > > > > thanks to the whole community, without which this research would have > > not been possible. > > best wishes, > > > > -- > > Marco Donnarumma > > New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. > > ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) > > The University of Edinburgh, UK > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/> > > Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com > > <http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/> | http://www.thesaddj.com > > <http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/ > > > > Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net > > <http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-announce mailing list > > pd-annou...@iem.at > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:56:30 +0100 > From: Christoph Kuhr <christoph.k...@web.de> > Subject: Re: [PD] vbap speaker position not correct? > To: pd-list@iem.at > Message-ID: <4f4218ce.5050...@web.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > i found my error... > i used [dac~0 1 2 0 3 4 5 6 7] instead of [dac~ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8], > the leftmost outlet is not the first puredata output in jack.!?! > the second leftmost outlet (1) is corresponding to puredata output 0. > > is that correct? > has this changed over the time? > > regards > Ck > > > On 19.02.2012 19:26, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:11:30 -0500 > > From: "Hans-Christoph Steiner"<h...@at.or.at> > > Subject: Re: [PD] vbap speaker position not correct? > > To: Christoph Kuhr<christoph.k...@web.de>,pd-list@iem.at > > Message-ID: > > <1329675090.32069.140661038555...@webmail.messagingengine.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > If the amp numbers coming out of vbap are correct, then I think the > > problem is in your patch ' your speaker setup, or your space. > > > > .hc > > > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012, at 20:16, Christoph Kuhr wrote: > >> > Hi list, > >> > > >> > i used the following define_loudspeakers object: > >> > > >> > define_loudspeakers 3 -45 0 0 45 45 0 90 45 145 0 180 > >> > 45 -145 0 -90 45 > >> > > >> > but if i make a horizontal circle trajectory, the sound comes from > >> > strange positions. > >> > its like an inclined ellipse or something... > >> > i also tried ls-triplets and ls-directions messages without effort. > >> > > >> > the values at the vbap outputs are correct. > >> > > >> > what could be the problem? > >> > > >> > regards > >> > Ck > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > >> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:03:47 +0100 > From: Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsut...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] floating-point question > To: pd-list@iem.at > Message-ID: <4f421a83.2080...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 20/02/12 04:42, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Mathieu Bouchard<ma...@artengine.ca> > >> To: Hans-Christoph Steiner<h...@at.or.at> > >> Cc: pd-list@iem.at; Mirko Petrovich<mirko.petrov...@gmail.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 10:12 PM > >> Subject: Re: [PD] floating-point question > >> > >> Le 2012-02-19 ? 21:52:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a ?crit : > >>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:27 PM, Mirko Petrovich wrote: > >>>> I'm having a problem with a patch doing some very simple math. The > >> problem is that float 0.1 represents as 0.0999985 in some cases. > >>> That's a problem with floating point calculations on computers, > >> unfortuantely. Hard to work around that. > >> > ... > > With 64-bit floats does this problem practically go away (like getting > an index into > > a large table)? > Careful, though, if you convert it back to 32 or 16 bit. > Especially if you are using expensive gear: > > http://www.around.com/ariane.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:10:37 +0100 > From: Roman Haefeli <reduz...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] vbap speaker position not correct? > To: pd-list@iem.at > Message-ID: <1329732637.3603.1.camel@yoyo4> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 10:56 +0100, Christoph Kuhr wrote: > > i found my error... > > i used [dac~0 1 2 0 3 4 5 6 7] instead of [dac~ 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8], > > the leftmost outlet is not the first puredata output in jack.!?! > > the second leftmost outlet (1) is corresponding to puredata output 0. > > > > is that correct? > > has this changed over the time? > > Ever since I remember using Pd, the dac numbering starts with 1, not > with 0. > > Roman > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:53:31 +0100 > From: ?ngel Faraldo <angelfara...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in > beta! > To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> > Cc: "pd-list@iem.at List" <pd-list@iem.at> > Message-ID: <8b81f5dd-3f1a-4548-a864-dd8bf8e2c...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > On Feb 19, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012, at 11:19, ?ngel Faraldo wrote: > >> > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> > >>> Date: February 18, 2012 9:02:07 PM GMT+01:00 > >>> To: ?ngel Faraldo <angelfara...@gmail.com> > >>> Cc: Jo?o Pais <jmmmp...@googlemail.com>, "pd-list@iem.at List" < > pd-list@iem.at> > >>> Subject: Re: [PD] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in > beta! > >> > >> > >>>> also frequent and irregular audio clicks on mac OSX 10.6.8, no matter > how big the delay time is set to in the audio properties. (Tested with > 'test audio/midi patch' @ SR 44100 and 48000 Hz with built-in audio, > portaudio). > >> > >>> What kind of computer and audio interface are you using? > >> > >> macbook pro 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with OSX 10.6.8. I tested it with > >> the built-in audio and a RME Fireface 800 with similar results. > > > > > > I'm on a very similar machine', a MacBook pro 3 - 2.4ghz running > > 10.6.8. Ive never seen this before. I don't have any external > > interface, perhaps its related to the drivers from your interface? Just > > a guess. Do other audio apps work? Like Audacity? It also uses > > portaudio. > > Actually I have tried it on an older macbook without problem, but on my > computer keeps on clicking awfully if I use portaudio --I attach a mp3 file > with the output--. If I select jack there are no clicks. Besides, the audio > in Audacity works perfectly fine. > > (These tests were done with the mac built-in audio and with a RME fireface > 800 with similar results). > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: pd_testAudio_44100_20msec_portaudio.mp3 > Type: audio/mpeg > Size: 246177 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20120220/1b84f6f3/attachment.mp3 > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > ?ngel > > > > > Please file a bug report on this one too. > > > > .hc > > > > > > > >>> > >>> Hmm yeah, [cputime] does seem broken. Could you post a bug report > please? > >> > >> done > >> > >> ?ngel faraldo > >>> > >>> .hc > >>> > >>> On Feb 18, 2012, at 2:54 PM, ?ngel Faraldo wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi there, > >>>> > >>>> also frequent and irregular audio clicks on mac OSX 10.6.8, no matter > how big the delay time is set to in the audio properties. (Tested with > 'test audio/midi patch' @ SR 44100 and 48000 Hz with built-in audio, > portaudio). > >>>> > >>>> also, [cputime] appears not to work. > >>>> > >>>> (pd-0.43.1-extended-20120218-macosx105-i386) > >>>> > >>>> ?ngel Faraldo > >>>> _________________ > >>>> www.angelfaraldo.info > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Jo?o Pais wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> It sounds as if the audio isn't synced to the system card, or > something. The sinus in the audio test patch has lots of irregular clicks, > almost as if they would be dropouts. > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What do you mean by noisy? Can you give more information? I > really don't know much about Windows, so I rely on others to tell me how > things there should be handled. patco and pob have been doing a lot of > valuable work there. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> .hc > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Jo?o Pais wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi Hans, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> great job. But, here in XP, I get audio problems: trying to run > with asio (as I always do with 0.42), the audio is very noisy. > >>>>>>> Audio options are -asio -audioindev 2 -audiooutdev 2 -channels 2 > -midiindev 1 -midioutdev 1 -audiobuf 40, and they always worked with > previous versions of pd-ext. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Jo?o > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > http://at.or.at/hans/blog/2012/02/17/new-editing-feature-of-pd-extended-0-43-now-in-beta/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The Pd-extended 0.43 release has been brewing an extra long time, > about 18 months now, mostly because there are lots of big improvements, and > we wanted to make sure we got it right, so your patches all work, but the > improvements all shine. Its now solidly beta, so we?re looking for testers. > Download a nightly build to try here: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> First off, the pd-gui side of Pd has been re-written from > scratch. When you run Pd, you are actually running two programs: pd is the > core engine and pd-gui is the GUI. Since basically all computers now come > with multiple CPU cores, this means that pd-gui will usually run on a > separate CPU core than pd, so they don?t step on each other?s toes. pd can > entirely take over its own core. If you want to make your patch use more > CPU cores, then check out the [pd~] object introduced in the last release > (0.42.5). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> pd still handles some of the GUI stuff, but we are working on > splitting that out for the 0.44 release. That is a big chunk of work but it > will also bring big gains. In particular, it means that it will be possible > for people to write their own GUIs for Pd, covering not just the display of > the patch, but also the editing, and everything else. You like > OpenFrameworks, python, iOS, JUCE, Qt, etc.? Write your own pd-gui using > the toolkit of your choice. That?s the idea at least. That will take a > solid chunk of work, so we are looking for people to join that effort. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> There are so many ideas for making a better editing experience in > Pd, this release makes big strides to address the editing experience. There > are new features like Magic Glass, Autotips, Autopatch and Perf Mode, all > available on the Edit menu. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ? Magic Glass let?s you magically see the messages as they pass > through the cords. Just turn it on and hover above a cord, and you?ll see > the messages as they go by. You can even look at signal/audio cords. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ? Autotips gives you tips about what an object does, what its > inlet expects, and what comes out of the outlets. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ? Autopatch mode automatically connects objects as you create > them. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ? Perf Mode, is a mode for performance that makes it harder to > accidentally close windows that are part of your performance. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The Pd Window is also majorly overhauled. First of all, its fast. > Much much faster than the old one. You can now print thousands of messages > per second to the Pd Window and still edit your patch. No more will an > accidental dump of info cause the GUI to freeze up (well, ok, maybe if you > send 10,000 messages/second but that is a way too many). There are also now > 5 levels of printing messages to the Pd Window: fatal, error, normal, > debug, all. If you are only interested in fatal errors, switch the Pd > Window to 0 ? fatal, and you?ll only see the worst problems. You want to > see every single message to debug? Switch to 4 ? all, and you?ll get the > whole firehose. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> There is also the new log library, which lets you easily send > messages for those different levels. And all messages logged with the > objects from the log library are clickable: when you Ctrl-Click or > Cmd-click (Mac OS X) on the line in the Pd Window, it?ll pop up the patch > where the message came from, and highlight the specific object that printed > it. That even works for many messages from other objects as well. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The Pd Window also includes very basic level meters for > monitoring the input and output levels. And for those who want to play with > the GUI in realtime, you can type Tcl code in the Tcl entry field, and > directly modify and probe the running GUI. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> One thing that you can do now is customize the GUI using GUI > plugins. You can change all sorts of colors, some fonts, and many > behaviors. Want to create a new object when you triple-click? Try the > tripleclick example plugin Want to make the patch cords disappear when you > leave Edit Mode? Check out the ?only show cords in edit mode? example. > Those are the simple ones. There is also Tab Completion, a search engine > for the docs, a category browser for the right-click menu, a buttonbar for > creating objects, and more. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You can find many GUI plugins in the new section of the downloads > page as well as documentation for making your own. 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