Is this the same as the one in the doc/3.audio.examples? If so, why this
instead of ezoutput~.pd already provided by pddp?
FWIW, I believe less is more and having multiple redundant abstractions
available makes both pd use and maintenance harder.
On 11/25/2012 12:19 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
output~.pd is an abstraction included in pd/extra/ Pd-extended.
.hc
On 11/24/2012 11:32 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
Scope~ and envgen work just fine here. Can you report what is broken with
them? As for output~, I am not even sure what library is this a part of since
I don't use it. Since pd-l2ork by default does not load all libraries, you
need to explicitly call the object by its folder/lib, e.g. <libname>/output~
On 11/24/2012 09:16 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
It would be amazing if Pd-extended 0.43 is put to work with jack... *.*
Pd-L2Ork can't suply my expectations..
objects like [output~] [Scope~] [envgen] don't work on the L2Ork version
here..
My last chance would be pd-extended 0.43...
2012/11/24 Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at <mailto:h...@at.or.at>>
If someone can point me to the commit that fixes this, I'm happy
to include it in Pd-extended 0.43. I just never use Jack, so I
don't know what's what. Things work in my basic tests.
I know that Miller changed this stuff in pure-data.git.
.hc
On Nov 24, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Gerhard Lang wrote:
> Tx Ivica and Esteban,
> as similarly afflicted user encouraged by this thread I followed
this recommendation, replaced pd and pd-extended with pd-l2ork.
> Works flawlessly together with jack 1.9.9-test5 from kx-studio
ppa, dsp is switchable, some other bugs are gone, my patches run :D
> You made my day and now I'm going to learn more about L2ork.
> Gerhard
>
> Am 24.11.2012 17:35, schrieb Ivica Bukvic:
>>
>> With 1.9.8 and pd-l2ork all your problems will be solved except
for the one caused by jack which in your case should not be a
problem unless you physically disconnect (accidentally our
otherwise) your audio hardware while jack is running.
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2012 7:44 AM, "Esteban Viveros" <emvive...@gmail.com
<mailto:emvive...@gmail.com> <mailto:emvive...@gmail.com
<mailto:emvive...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> HUm... Ok... I will try!
>>
>> But what the better? Jack 1.9.8 or 1.9.9?
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/24 Ivica Bukvic <i...@vt.edu <mailto:i...@vt.edu>
<mailto:i...@vt.edu <mailto:i...@vt.edu>>>
>>
>> That is the regression I spoke of in pd 0.43 branch. Try
>> pd-l2ork...
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2012 9:27 PM, "Esteban Viveros"
>> <emvive...@gmail.com <mailto:emvive...@gmail.com>
<mailto:emvive...@gmail.com <mailto:emvive...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Ops... I did a better test, and doing first open Pd and
>> then I open Jack. Now The DSP function work well, but I
>> don't have sound...
>>
>> On messages box I have:
>>
>> 00:18:26.321 Patchbay deactivated.
>>
>> 00:18:26.373 Statistics reset.
>>
>> 00:18:26.388 ALSA connection change.
>>
>> 00:18:26.440 JACK connection change.
>>
>> 00:18:26.467 Client activated.
>>
>> 00:18:52.992 JACK connection graph change.
>>
>> 00:18:53.134 JACK connection change.
>>
>> 00:19:38.102 Client deactivated.
>>
>> 00:19:38.103 Post-shutdown script...
>>
>> 00:19:38.103 dreamstudio-restart-pulseaudio
>>
>> # making sure pulseaudio will restart if it crashes
>>
>> # starting pulseaudio
>>
>> # connecting pulseaudio to JACK
>>
>> Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou
>>
>> Falha: A inicialização do módulo falhou
>>
>> 00:19:41.798 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit
>> status=256.
>>
>> 00:19:44.297 JACK connection change.
>>
>> 00:19:44.311 Client activated.
>>
>> 00:20:38.543 JACK connection graph change.
>>
>> 00:20:38.693 JACK connection change.
>>
>> 00:20:42.648 ALSA connection graph change.
>>
>> 00:20:42.708 ALSA connection change.
>>
>> 00:20:42.709 ALSA connection graph change.
>>
>> 00:20:42.910 ALSA connection change.
>>
>> 00:20:45.334 JACK connection graph change.
>>
>> 00:20:45.514 JACK connection change.
>>
>> 00:20:52.993 JACK connection graph change.
>>
>> 00:20:53.014 Buffer size change (64).
>>
>>
>> What can I do now?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/23 Esteban Viveros <emvive...@gmail.com
<mailto:emvive...@gmail.com>
>> <mailto:emvive...@gmail.com
<mailto:emvive...@gmail.com>>>
>>
>> Hmmm... I can understand now...
>>
>> Well.. I tried now the version of Jack on kxstudio
>> testing ppa
>>
<https://launchpad.net/%7Ekxstudio-team/+archive/testing>
>> and the problem is the same... :(
>>
>> This ppa was install jack2, jackd and jackdfirewire
>> packages on version 1.9.9 but the package
>> libjack-jack2.0 is mantained on version 1.9.8
>>
>> The next step will be to compile jack packages on
>> version 1.9.9
>>
>> Ivica, or anyone, you have some information how
can I
>> compile that? For that I need some help.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/23 Ivica Ico Bukvic <i...@vt.edu
<mailto:i...@vt.edu>
>> <mailto:i...@vt.edu <mailto:i...@vt.edu>>>
>>
>> See below (from the linux-audio-user list):
>>
>> Re: [LAU] question about jackdmp's ability to
>> detect its soundcard has disconnected
>>
>> Could this be the difference between 1.9.8
and git
>> version?
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2012 12:10 PM, "Robin Gareus"
>> <ro...@gareus.org <mailto:ro...@gareus.org>
<mailto:ro...@gareus.org <mailto:ro...@gareus.org>>> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/29/2012 03:55 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
>> > All,
>> >
>> > I noticed since upgrading to Ubuntu 12.04 that
>> the default Jack server is
>> > jackdmp (v.1.9.8). Please correct me if I am
>> wrong but my understanding this
>> > is the smp-enabled version 2 that is being
>> developed in parallel with 1.x
>> > series of regular jack.
>>
>> correct. They are also API and ABI compatible.
>>
>> > Either way, one of my concerns is that
while in
>> the old jack when one
>> > accidentally pulled the soundcard jack was
>> trying to talk to (e.g. a USB
>> > soundcard), the jack would gracefully stop.
>>
>> In my experience it stopped but never gracefully
>> (ie it crashed). but
>> it's been a while since I used jack1.
>>
>> > The new version (and this could
>> > be Ubuntu quirk) instead of stopping is pegged
>> in some kind of a spinlock
>> > that often times locks up the machine
(this may
>> be in part since I am
>> > running a lowlatency kernel with audio group
>> given priority) and at times
>> > keeps it operational while hogging the cpu and
>> making the computer barely
>> > responsive until jackd is killed. Apps
connected
>> to jack that I tested so
>> > far are also stuck in a loop waiting for a
>> response from jack (although this
>> > could be the app's shortcoming)--jack never
>> broadcasts a signal that it has
>> > lost the soundcard (AFAICT). FWIW I am running
>> jackdmp through qjackctl...
>> > Any thoughts on this matter would be most
>> appreciated.
>> >
>>
>> I can't reproduce this. jack2 stops the backend
>> when the device is
>> disconnected. You can switch to a new backend
>> using jack_control
>> (sending some Dbus messages to jackd) without
>> re-starting jackd. No CPU
>> hogging here. - I'm running jack2 - aka 1.9.9.4
>> from git.
>>
>> robin
>>
>>
>>
>>
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