Strange, you're is trying a blank object name: > verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux > tried ./.l_ia64 and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/.l_ia64 and failed > tried ./.pd_linux and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/.pd_linux and failed > tried .l_ia64 and failed > tried .pd_linux and failed > tried -meta.pd and failed > error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup > library'!
What does this tell you: ls -l /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux .hc On 01/21/2013 06:06 PM, Julian Brooks wrote: > Hey Hans, > > Apologies for the delay... > > $ pd-extended -stderr -verbose -noprefs -nrt > input channels = 0, output channels = 0 > Pd-0.43.4 ("extended-20130107") compiled 06:37:26 Jan 7 2013 > port 5400 > TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-extended/lib/tcl/library" > TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-extended/lib/tk/library" wish8.5 > "/usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl//pd-gui.tcl" 5400 > Waiting for connection request... > ... connected > opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 MIDI output device(s). > input channels = 0, output channels = 0 > verbose(5): Using /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup as startup. > verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/0.libdir.pd_linux > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/libdir/libdir.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/libdir/libdir.pd_linux and succeeded > verbose(3): libdir loader 1.9 > verbose(3): compiled on Jan 7 2013 at 06:42:56 > verbose(3): compiled against Pd version 0.43.4.extended-20130107 > verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux > tried ./.l_ia64 and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/.l_ia64 and failed > tried ./.pd_linux and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/.pd_linux and failed > tried .l_ia64 and failed > tried .pd_linux and failed > tried -meta.pd and failed > error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup > library'! > > verbose(4): Loading extra in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/extra > tried ./extra.l_ia64 and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/extra.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed > tried ./extra.pd_linux and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/extra.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra.pd_linux and failed > tried ./extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed > tried ./extra/extra.pd_linux and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/extra/extra.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra/extra.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/extra.pd_linux and failed > tried ./extra/extra-meta.pd and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/extra/extra-meta.pd and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra/extra-meta.pd and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/extra-meta.pd and succeeded > verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path > verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'extra' from '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra' > verbose(4): Loading pdlua in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/pdlua > tried ./pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > tried ./pdlua.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/pdlua.pd_linux and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/pdlua.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/pdlua.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdlua.pd_linux and failed > tried ./pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed > tried ./pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and succeeded > verbose(3): pdlua 0.7.1 (GPL) 2012 Martin Peach, based on > verbose(3): lua 0.6~svn (GPL) 2008 Claude Heiland-Allen < > claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org> > verbose(3): pdlua: compiled for pd-0.43 on Jan 7 2013 06:42:56 > verbose(4): Loading tclpd in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/tclpd > tried ./tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > tried ./tclpd.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/tclpd.pd_linux and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/tclpd.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/tclpd.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd.pd_linux and failed > tried ./tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed > tried ./tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and succeeded > verbose(3): tclpd loader v0.3.0 > verbose(3): tclpd: trying to load > /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd/tclpd.tcl... > verbose(3): tclpd: loaded /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd/tclpd.tcl > verbose(4): Loading vanilla in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/vanilla > tried ./vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > tried ./vanilla.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla.pd_linux and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/vanilla.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla.pd_linux and failed > tried ./vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed > tried ./vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed > tried ./vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed > tried /home/julian/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed > tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed > tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and succeeded > verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'vanilla' to the global objectclass path > verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'vanilla' from > '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla' > > > > > > On 21 January 2013 21:58, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> wrote: > >> >> Hey Julian, >> >> Can you run this and send me the results: >> >> $ pd-extended -stderr -verbose -noprefs -nrt >> >> .hc >> >> On 01/21/2013 04:37 PM, Julian Brooks wrote: >>> Yip yip - same here: >>> >>> 0.43.4-extended-20130107 >>> >>> WARNING: 64-bit builds are still beta, some libraries are known to have >>> serious issues (cyclone, maxlib, moonlib, moocow, pdp, bsaylor, etc.) >>> /usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl/../startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup >>> library'! >>> >>> >>> [list] has only one inlet. >>> >>> Debian Sid/Wheezy 64b. >>> >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> Julian >>> >>> >>> >>> On 21 January 2013 21:26, batinste <dwanaf...@yahoo.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> Weirder and weirder. Pd-ext still cannot load 1.list.pd_linux. I get >>>> >>>> error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux: can't load >> startup >>>> library'! >>>> >>>> but : >>>> >>>> ~$ ls /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/ | grep list >>>> 1.list.pd_linux >>>> >>>> >>>> So i deinstalled the last auto-build of Pd-extended for ubuntu 12.10 >> x64 : >>>> >>>> ~$ sudo dpkg --purge pd-extended >>>> (Lecture de la base de données... 303007 fichiers et répertoires déjà >>>> installés.) >>>> Suppression de pd-extended ... >>>> Purge des fichiers de configuration de pd-extended ... >>>> dpkg : avertissement : while removing pd-extended, directory >>>> '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra' not empty so not removed >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « >> hicolor-icon-theme >>>> »... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « bamfdaemon »... >>>> Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.**index... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « >> desktop-file-utils >>>> »... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « gnome-menus »... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « man-db »... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « menu »... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « shared-mime-info >>>> »... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « ureadahead »... >>>> >>>> in the extra directory are ANN library and the missing earplug_data.txt. >>>> It shouldn't interfere with the rest. >>>> >>>> Then i removed preferences backups i did in my /home/me : .pdextended, >>>> .pdextended~, .pdextended.**thisoneactuallyworks, etc :) >>>> >>>> Then, downloaded Pd-0.43.4-extended-ubuntu-**quantal-amd64.deb from >>>> http://autobuild.puredata.**info/auto-build/latest/< >> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/>and >>>> >>>> ~$ sudo dpkg -i Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-**ubuntu-quantal-amd64.deb >>>> Sélection du paquet pd-extended précédemment désélectionné. >>>> (Lecture de la base de données... 295934 fichiers et répertoires déjà >>>> installés.) >>>> Dépaquetage de pd-extended (à partir de >> .../Pd-0.43.4-extended-ubuntu-**quantal-amd64.deb) >>>> ... >>>> Paramétrage de pd-extended (0.43.4-extended) ... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « ureadahead »... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « shared-mime-info >>>> »... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « menu »... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « man-db »... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « bamfdaemon »... >>>> Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.**index... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « >> desktop-file-utils >>>> »... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « gnome-menus »... >>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « >> hicolor-icon-theme >>>> »... >>>> >>>> and finally >>>> :~$ pd-extended -stderr -verbose >>>> input channels = 0, output channels = 0 >>>> Pd-0.43.4 ("extended") compiled 09:20:08 Jan 20 2013 >>>> port 5400 >>>> TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-**extended/lib/tcl/library" >>>> TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-**extended/lib/tk/library" wish8.5 >>>> "/usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl//pd-**gui.tcl" 5400 >>>> priority 6 scheduling enabled. >>>> Waiting for connection request... >>>> priority 8 scheduling enabled. >>>> /usr/lib/pd-extended/bin/pd-**watchdog >>>> ... connected >>>> opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 MIDI output device(s). >>>> input channels = 0, output channels = 0 >>>> Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.**conf", line 9: reading >>>> configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated. >>>> verbose(5): Using /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup as startup. >>>> verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**0.libdir.pd_linux >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**libdir/libdir.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**libdir/libdir.pd_linux and succeeded >>>> verbose(3): libdir loader 1.9 >>>> verbose(3): compiled on Jan 20 2013 at 09:23:51 >>>> verbose(3): compiled against Pd version 0.43.4.extended >>>> verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux >>>> tried ./`Lp.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried ./`Lp.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried ./`Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried ./`Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried -meta.pd and failed >>>> error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux: can't load >> startup >>>> library'! >>>> >>>> verbose(4): Loading extra in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**extra >>>> tried ./extra.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried ./extra.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried ./extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried ./extra/extra.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried ./extra/extra-meta.pd and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra-meta.pd and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra-meta.pd and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra-meta.pd and succeeded >>>> verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path >>>> verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'extra' from '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/** >>>> extra' >>>> verbose(4): Loading pdlua in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**pdlua >>>> tried ./pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried ./pdlua.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried ./pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried ./pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and succeeded >>>> watchdog: signaling pd... >>>> verbose(3): pdlua 0.7.1 (GPL) 2012 Martin Peach, based on >>>> verbose(3): lua 0.6~svn (GPL) 2008 Claude Heiland-Allen < >>>> claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org> >>>> verbose(3): pdlua: compiled for pd-0.43 on Jan 20 2013 09:23:51 >>>> verbose(4): Loading tclpd in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**tclpd >>>> tried ./tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried ./tclpd.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried ./tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried ./tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and succeeded >>>> verbose(3): tclpd loader v0.3.0 >>>> verbose(3): tclpd: trying to load /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/** >>>> tclpd/tclpd.tcl... >>>> verbose(3): tclpd: loaded /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.tcl >>>> verbose(4): Loading vanilla in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**vanilla >>>> tried ./vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried ./vanilla.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried ./vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and >> failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried ./vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and >>>> failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried ./vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and >>>> failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and succeeded >>>> verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'vanilla' to the global objectclass >> path >>>> verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'vanilla' from '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/** >>>> vanilla' >>>> >>>> If i try to open a new patch and create and [list], it has only one >> inlet. >>>> >>>> then i restart pd-ext, and If i try to open a new patch and [import >> list], >>>> i get >>>> >>>> tried /home/batinste/list.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/list.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/list.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**list.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**list.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**list.l_ia64 and failed >>>> tried /home/batinste/list.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/list.pd_linux and failed >>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/list.pd_linux and succeeded >>>> verbose(3): [import] loaded library: 'list' >>>> >>>> Then i try to create a [list], it has 2 inlets. >>>> >>>> my .pdextended : >>>> >>>> audioapi: 2 >>>> noaudioin: True >>>> noaudioout: True >>>> audiobuf: 50 >>>> rate: 44100 >>>> callback: 0 >>>> blocksize: 64 >>>> nomidiin: True >>>> nomidiout: True >>>> npath: 0 >>>> standardpath: 1 >>>> verbose: 1 >>>> nloadlib: 0 >>>> defeatrt: 0 >>>> flags: >>>> >>>> >>>> my /usr/lib/pd-extended/default.**pdextended : >>>> >>>> audioapi: 1 >>>> standardpath: 1 >>>> verbose: 0 >>>> defeatrt: 0 >>>> flags: >>>> loadlib1: Gem >>>> loadlib2: cyclone >>>> loadlib3: zexy >>>> loadlib4: creb >>>> loadlib5: cxc >>>> loadlib6: iemlib >>>> loadlib7: list-abs >>>> loadlib8: mapping >>>> loadlib9: markex >>>> loadlib10: maxlib >>>> loadlib11: mjlib >>>> loadlib12: motex >>>> loadlib13: oscx >>>> loadlib14: pddp >>>> loadlib15: pdogg >>>> loadlib16: pmpd >>>> loadlib17: sigpack >>>> loadlib18: smlib >>>> loadlib19: unauthorized >>>> loadlib20: pan >>>> loadlib21: hcs >>>> loadlib22: jmmmp >>>> loadlib23: ext13 >>>> loadlib24: ggee >>>> loadlib25: iem_anything >>>> loadlib26: ekext >>>> loadlib27: flatgui >>>> loadlib28: chaos >>>> loadlib29: pdp >>>> nloadlib: 29 >>>> path1: /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-**conf.d/dirs/TrueType >>>> npath: 1 >>>> >>>> >>>> if it's a bug, i'll happily file it. >>>> >>>> On 21/01/2013 02:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 5:52 PM, batinste wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 20/01/2013 21:02, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 01/20/2013 06:36 AM, batinste wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was intrigued by this [$@< bug (mainly because i didn't knew about >>>>>>>> this $@ >>>>>>>> thingy), so i decided to give it a try. Attached is my test patch. >> It >>>>>>>> crashes >>>>>>>> on my ubuntu 12.10 64bits, Pd-l2ork version 20130111 compiled >> 13:18:07 >>>>>>>> Jan 11 >>>>>>>> 2013, way before reaching 1000 args. I launch it in my terminal >> with : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ~$ pd-l2ork test-dollar-at.pd >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All i have to do is continuously move my mouse over the patch while >>>>>>>> it's >>>>>>>> running, and it will crash around 100 args. You can also try to play >>>>>>>> with the >>>>>>>> vslider, it will crash. OR (curiously), it won't crash when moving >> the >>>>>>>> mouse, >>>>>>>> but going in and out of edit mode or saving will make it crash... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On a side note, look at the patch cord going out of the vslider : it >>>>>>>> looks >>>>>>>> weird to me, like attached a few pixels under the vslider, not >> directly >>>>>>>> connected to it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's worth a bug report! It worked for me: I left it alone for a >>>>>>> while and >>>>>>> it went to 24817, then once I clicked in the patch, it crashed >>>>>>> instantly. >>>>>>> Batinste, could you file a bug report and include your patch? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ok ! >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok now, the fun part : >>>>>>>> When i open this patch with pd-extended (Pd-0.43.4 >>>>>>>> ("extended-20130118") >>>>>>>> compiled 09:30:52 Jan 18 2013), [list] only has one inlet (it should >>>>>>>> have 2, >>>>>>>> given that it's supposed to behave like [list append]) and when i >> want >>>>>>>> to see >>>>>>>> [list]'s help file, pd-ext opens bang's help file... When i open the >>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>> patch with pd-l2ork, the lists do have 2 inlets. Oh, and pd-extended >>>>>>>> happened >>>>>>>> to display lists with their 2 inlets, but i can't reproduce this >>>>>>>> reliably. I >>>>>>>> tried to open the patch with -noprefs (to ensure that i didn't have >> a >>>>>>>> forgotten [list] abstraction somewhere) same issue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am i cursed or something ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've never seen the [list] with the single inlet bug. Can you send >> me >>>>>>> a patch >>>>>>> to reproduce it? I think that would happen if you run 'pd-extended >>>>>>> -nostartup' which will prevent the list lib from being automatically >>>>>>> loaded at >>>>>>> startup. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -noprefs won't disable loading from ~/pd-externals or >>>>>>> /usr/local/lib/pd-externals since that's hard coded in Pd. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> .hc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> oops my bad, i did not see this : error: >> /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/ >>>>>> **1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup library'! >>>>>> It was with the patch i attached earlier. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Where you able to fix that error? That file is definitely included in >> the >>>>> packages that I've tried. >>>>> >>>>> .hc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 20/01/2013 07:35, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Ivica Ico Bukvic <i...@vt.edu> >>>>>>>>>> To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' <jancs...@yahoo.com>; 'Hans-Christoph >> Steiner' >>>>>>>>>> <h...@at.or.at> >>>>>>>>>> Cc: pd-list@iem.at >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:21 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Why not simply use pd-l2ork? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I do, but possible reasons why someone might not use Pd-l2ork: >>>>>>>>>>> * no binary for windows >>>>>>>>>>> * no binary for OSX >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On the flip-side pd-l2ork provides a solid, bug-free environment >> on >>>>>>>>>> Linux >>>>>>>>>> and looks a lot more contemporary than the aged default tk >>>>>>>>>> iteration. In >>>>>>>>>> other words, it is a targeted Linux distribution of pd (something >>>>>>>>>> that can >>>>>>>>>> be easily lost in a cross-platform effort with inadequate >> developer >>>>>>>>>> support, >>>>>>>>>> as I am sure Hans can attest to). At this point I would go as far >> as >>>>>>>>>> challenge you to find something that does not work or exhibits a >>>>>>>>>> buggy >>>>>>>>>> behavior >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> $@ in msg box probably still crashes when incoming args > 1000 >> (same >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> pd-extended) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Jonathan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>>>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-list< >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/** >>>> listinfo/pd-list <http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> >>>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list