On Feb 2, 2013 8:38 PM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <h...@at.or.at> wrote: > > On 02/02/2013 02:06 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Max <abonneme...@revolwear.com> > >> To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> > >> Cc: Jonathan Wilkes <jancs...@yahoo.com>; PD list <pd-list@iem.at> > >> Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 1:32 AM > >> Subject: Re: [PD] Apply missing > >> > >> Am 27.01.2012 um 17:39 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at>: > >>> On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> From: Max <abonneme...@revolwear.com> > >>>>> Am 27.01.2012 um 02:50 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: > >>>>>> On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 22:51 +0100, Max wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> i noticed that in the current autobuilds of Pd-extended the > >> property > >>>>> dialogs for the gui-objects are missing the Apply-Button. Is that a > >> bug or a > >>>>> feature? > >>>>>>> IMHO this is a bug - if you want to adjust for instance a > >> canvas to be > >>>>> the same size as another object of unknown size you can do that > >> with a few > >>>>> clicks and the help of the Apply button. If you have to click OK > >> and then go to > >>>>> context menu->Properties, set the size, OK repeately to do that > >> it's > >>>>> simply annoying. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> That seems like a good enough reason, I brought back the Apply > >> button to > >>>>>> the iemgui Properties panel on Mac OS X. It was originally > >> moved since > >>>>>> the whole "OK, Apply, Cancel" is very Windows-like, > >> but there > >>>>> isn't an > >>>>>> easy way to make to work better, so the Apply button is back. > >> IMHO, > >>>>>> when you change the setting, it should take effect immediately. > >>>>> > >>>>> great. i agree that ideally i'd like to be able to see that > >> change happen > >>>>> immediately. even better: when grabbing the bottom-right corner > >> i'd have an > >>>>> anchor to scale the object (see Max/MSP for that)… > >>>> > >>>> Also see: pd-l2ork > >>> > >>> I think you are referring to Ico trying to make the iemguis resizable live > >> with a handle. I should finally get to releasing something useful form the > >> tkwidgets lib, since that also includes resizing with a handle. > >> > >> I just had another Idea how to solve this: Two buttons: Cancel and OK when you > >> change some properties in the Dialog the OK Button becomes labeled Apply. If > >> clicked on Apply, the new properties are applied and the Button becomes labeled > >> OK. If you click OK the Dialog is closed. > >> That way a double click on Apply will apply and close the dialog. > > > > That would double the number of clicks for users who never want to use > > Apply. > > I think that we should avoid patch fixes and do the right thing. I think we > should follow the example of Pd itself, but then also GNOME and Mac OS X > preferences: changes should take effect immediately without having to hit > apply or OK. Then there should be unlimited undo for returning to previous > states. The first part o that is not hard, the second part is. But since > unlimited undo is working in some parts of pd-l2ork, we at least have a > working example to draw from.
What do you mean by "in some parts?" Can you give an example of where it does not work? > > hc > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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