Does anyone have an example if an eno-esque sound on sound delay system I can gander at and tweak?
Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Oct 5, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Miller Puckette" <m...@ucsd.edu> wrote: > Hmm... Looking back in the git repo i saw: > > commit 42f3e5f8dbc60ad644e9f8a1c5b61d1847e19470 > Author: Miller Puckette <m...@ucsd.edu> > Date: Thu Nov 3 11:40:35 2011 -0700 > > change expr~ source to LGPL license (with IRCAM"s permission :) > > I had quite forgotten about this (and still can't remember this ever having > happened) > but here's the e-mail I got from Shahrokh: > >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 02:50:53AM -0700, Shahrokh Yadegari wrote: >>> Dear Max and Miller, >>> >>> I got news from IRCAM that they are willing to release expr code on LGPL. >>> Will that solve the current licensing problems? >>> >>> Max, could you communicate to the list and let me know what they think >> about >>> this. I hope this helps. >>> >>> thanks, >>> Shahrokh > > So I think we're in the clear (although I hope Shahrokh kept the mail from > IRCAM authorizing this!) > > I'll go on and change the source over here so that it appears in the git repo. > (This will take some time as I first want to merge my 0.45 fixes into > 'master'.) > > cheers > Miller > > On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 02:41:48PM +0900, i go bananas wrote: >> just to clarify, >> >> Shahrokh Yadegari, IRCAM, and the JMax developers, ALL agreed with the >> switch to LGPL license. >> >> so AFAIK, the 'GPL' claim in the source code is still there simply because >> no-one has changed it. >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Well, it seems like all the authors agree and there's already an LGPL >>> license. I only brought up all of this due to the inconsistency between >>> whats actually there in the source files. I'd love for that to just be >>> changed and we all move on. It's not like this is a huge patent / money >>> maker thing. If being anal and bringing this to light truly means I *can't* >>> use it in the long run, well than I should have done what most everyone >>> else does in these situations: use it and keep my mouth shut :P. >>> >>> We know what is allowed / not allowed by Apple, don't need a lawyer for >>> that. >>> >>> On Oct 5, 2013, at 4:22 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: >>> >>> On 10/04/2013 01:44 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: >>> >>> One (not so minor) note on this... "expr" is copyright IRCAM (hahrokh >>> Yadegari >>> was working for IRCAM at the time) and is also included in Max, so it >>> might be sbject to agreements between IRCAM and Cycling '74. >>> >>> I was under the impression it was under GPL, not LGPL. I just looked and >>> saw that, indeed, the LICENSE.txt file says LGPL and the expr source code >>> print out "GPL" on startup. The reason I think it's actually GPL is that >>> that is how IRCAM released it -- as part of jMAX, years ago. The current >>> code is based on that original code. Although it was extensively reworked >>> by Shahrokh, I presume the GPL terms under which he was working required >>> him >>> to release the result under GPL too. >>> >>> So for the moment at least, I'm afraid FUD rules. >>> >>> >>> My vote would be to keep all the original GPL licenses in Pd vanilla's >>> expr, and to remove the LGPL readme. GPL was the licensed under >>> which expr was originally released, so we can reasonably assume all the >>> copyright holders agreed to that license. >>> >>> If the consensus was that it should be changed in order to accomodate >>> Pure Data builds on IOS, then everyone who wants to use expr on IOS >>> should pool their resources and hire a lawyer to explain what is and >>> isn't allowed under the LGPL and Apple's TOS. The lawyer should also >>> find out if it was indeed possible to change the license to LGPL in light >>> of what Miller brings up about the original licensing. >>> >>> That's two unknowns wrt LGPL expr, and they won't be solved by >>> revising the source nor IANAL discussions. >>> >>> Best, >>> Jonathan >>> >>> >>> -------- >>> Dan Wilcox >>> @danomatika >>> danomatika.com >>> robotcowboy.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list