"RPis are not very powerful, and running them without a desktop (using ssh or similar over ethernet and /etc/rc.local to launch stuff on boot) makes a lot of sense."
are you saying it basically doesn't really work for live audio applications with the desktop system on and all? cause, yeah, it seems it can'thandle, but I always thought you guys were doing it with the desktop system and everything I just got into this for curiosity, I don't really need a RPi for anything, just wanted to play with it and see if it could run simple patches. I could eventually use it live, but it wouldn't make sense to run it over ssh with another computer (would rather just use the other computer). cheers 2014-07-04 3:34 GMT-03:00 Simon Wise via Pd-list <pd-list@lists.iem.at>: > On 03/07/14 22:55, Alexandre Torres Porres via Pd-list wrote: > >> Hi IOhannes, I read your other answer giving more info on why it could be >> outdated even if released a couple of weeks ago. I think I get, although >> I'd still assume or don't see why pd wouldn't be available at "apt-get" if >> it were up to date. >> > > The meaning of 'stable' in debian is that it does not change, and apt-get > fetches packages that you wish to install from this base (it would be > possible for someone to maintain the latest pd as a raspbian package, but > it is almost as easy to install from Millers site so no-one bothers ... the > fact that pd is in debian means it gets tested on ARM and the version in > 'stable' automatically gets built as part of raspbian with no extra work, > which was especially nice when raspbian first came out). This system allows > distributions like raspbian to have a predictable base that they can then > take the time required to adapt for their purposes, and it allows sites > like Millers to build the up-to-date versions within that known framework > so that they 'just work' (and will still work a few weeks later) because > all the stuff it depends on does not keep changing versions every day. > > In the case of raspbian they have compiled debian with lots of > modifications to suit their particular CPU and have added and keep working > on lots of extra stuff that is specifically for their GPU and peripherals > etc. They then maintain raspbian with all these added things updated from > time to time but staying with 'stable' as the base. Presumably they will > move to jessie sometime for their main version (probably not till they get > it tested and running cleanly sometime after it is 'frozen' in advance of > it becoming the new stable ... this freeze would be expected reasonably > soon, debian does this on a two year cycle). But that does involve lots of > work and lots of testing since they are building the whole of debian for an > architecture which is halfway between the two official debian architectures > (the CPU is a rather old version of ARM, but with floating point hardware). > Chasing all the changes in the latest versions of everything all the time > would be very hard work. > > As for menus or desktop icons ... it is just a little text file called > "puredata.desktop" containing something like: > > [Desktop Entry] > Name=Pure Data > Comment=Visual dataflow programming platform for multimedia > Comment[ca]=Plataforma de programació visual per aplicacions multimèdia > Comment[de]=Grafische Datenflussprogrammierung für Multimedia > Comment[es]=Plataforma de programación visual para aplicaciones multimedia > Comment[fr]=Plateforme de programmation visuelle pour applications > multimédia > Comment[it]=Piattaforma di programmazione visuale per applicazioni > multimedia > Comment[pt]=Plataforma de programação visuais para multimedia > Exec=pd -noadc %F > Terminal=false > Type=Application > Icon=puredata.xpm > Categories=AudioVideo;Audio;Video;Development > MimeType=text/x-puredata;application/x-maxmsp;text/x-maxmsp; > StartupNotify=false > > using the appropriate "Exec=" line, and an appropriate file for "Icon=" > > if you add this file to the folder "/usr/share/applications" then it > should turn up in menus, or if you put it on the desktop it should show up > as an icon you can drag and drop to. > > > But the RPis are not very powerful, and running them without a desktop > (using ssh or similar over ethernet and /etc/rc.local to launch stuff on > boot) makes a lot of sense. > > Simon > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list >
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