Seb Shader via Pd-list wrote: > Hello again list, > > > What do y'all think of the idea of releasing Pd-extended both as a > "core" pd with no libraries added except maybe the libdir and hex loaders and > as a version with multiple libraries (2 release stages)? Perhaps it's been > discussed. the thing I enjoy about Extended is the features it adds to > pd-vanilla, and this way people can just keep the same libraries installed in > the same places and switch between vanilla and extended easier. In my > experience I never need/want to use most of the arbitrary libraries included > and/or loaded on startup and could easily download and install the ones I do > want. I also see the appeal/logic of using a standardized set of libs though. > > > seems like a reasonable way to develop it too... everyone focusing on the > core and then working on their own libs for a bundled release.
That is definitely the goal of Pd-extended, I couldn't have said it better myself. :-) It is purely a matter of someone doing the work. With two little kids and full time programming work, I have little spare cycles for programming these days. But I'll happily help anyone who wants to take on part of all of making this happen. > Also about import/saving libraries to load on startup: wouldn't it make more > sense if either the list were editable or there were no list? Strange that > users get this arbitrary list to load on startup, (not even all the libs > included in PdX) without being able to edit it, a set of libs that they never > have to [import], but then they're expected to [import] everything else > unless they manually edit the preferences file (quite confusing for most > users)? > The libraries that are loaded by default are an oooold legacy of the beginning of Pd-extended. It should be removed, but it needs to be done in a way that is transparent when people update. Or maybe it makes sense now to just start fresh. When I get back to it, I won't be working that arrangement of crufty old libraries loaded by default. Instead the way forward is to make a new standard library that does things consistently and correctly across the whole library, while only maintaining backward compatibility when it doesn't get in the way of the primary goal. > Btw I also have a bit of time and know a little bit of c and tcl, i'd be glad > to pitch in where i can when there is a concrete plan (list of to-do's) of > how to move forward with Pd-extended. Excellent! Here is the page that I maintained for release goals: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease .hc _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
