And when is Heavy open-source ;) so I could use all this niceness? Or what about open-sourcing something like this? Basically a modular asm.js dsp library?
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Joe White <white.j...@gmail.com> wrote: > Oh yes I see, you're right. > > However, all the low level operations are modular enough that I guess you > could compile each into their own asm.js modules and then reconnect them > (pretty much replacing the processing loop). > > It's likely due to lack of experience with javascript and the desire to > have a single bundle for the user to import that we compile the whole > program. > > On 9 September 2015 at 11:12, s p <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > This is the exactly what we do in Heavy. >> >> is it? I somehow thought that you compile a patch with emscripten to a >> monolithic asmjs piece of code? >> >> What I mean is that with asm.js you can have very small modular functions >> that are asm.js optimized and called by some JS code that is not asm. For >> example a dsp tick function could do : >> >> objects.forEach(function(obj) { >> obj.tick() >> }) >> >> and for example osc would be implemented like this : >> >> osc.prototype.tick = function() { >> asmOptimizedSine(this.buffer, this.freq) >> } >> >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Joe White <white.j...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> > Also-- what about compiling libpd using emscripten? >>> >>> I think some people already did that (Martin Roth?) >>> >>> >>> I haven't heard of anyone doing that yet, but it's probably tricky for >>> reasons you pointed out. >>> >>> One other possible flavour of WebPd could be that the dsp is implemented >>>> as small functions in C compiled with emscripten. >>> >>> >>> This is the exactly what we do in Heavy. >>> >>> I guess there are two approaches; one being to replicate the Pd >>> environment (GUI + patching etc...) the other to use Pd as a way to design >>> audio implementations for different platforms, in this case the web. I like >>> the idea of people being able to create their own interfaces that don't >>> necessarily have to be dataflow-oriented and HTML+JS is really powerful for >>> that. >>> >>> On 9 September 2015 at 10:41, s p <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> @Robert : yes ... nacl is dead. And plugins are problematic. Probably a >>>> plugin wouldnt work on iphone for a start, and you would need to implement >>>> the plugin for many platforms ... and people need to install it etc. >>>> Plugins are a bit 2000 ;) flash and java and friends .... they are going to >>>> disappear sooner or later >>>> >>>> > Also-- what about compiling libpd using emscripten? >>>> >>>> I think some people already did that (Martin Roth?) ! It would probably >>>> work fine, the only thing is there will be issues with all the parts where >>>> the code needs to cooperate with the browser. Typically : loading resources >>>> (sound files), updating some graphics, etc ... Also you probably couldn't >>>> script things with JS. >>>> But most of all I think (Chris tell me if I'm wrong), WebPd started as >>>> an experiment to see what could be done in the browser only. Myself, I like >>>> that idea of doing only JavaScript. Pushing JS forward, developing tools to >>>> do dsp, etc ... so giving back to the JavaScript ecosystem through >>>> developing WebPd is a nice thought to me. Also you know ... I no nothing >>>> about C/C++ :) and I know JS quite well ... and as they say "if all you >>>> have is a hammer , everything looks like a nail" !!! On the other hand, >>>> that's also why I like the idea I explained in the other post about >>>> removing the dsp implementation from teh core. One other possible flavour >>>> of WebPd could be that the dsp is implemented as small functions in C >>>> compiled with emscripten. Even maybe why not reusing some of libpd? But I >>>> probably can't do it myself ... >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:22 AM, Chris McCormick <ch...@mccormick.cx> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 09/09/15 11:13, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Also-- what about compiling libpd using emscripten? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Do it! >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> http://mccormick.cx/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> *Sébastien Piquemal* >>>> >>>> -----* @sebpiq* >>>> ----- http://github.com/sebpiq >>>> ----- http://funktion.fm >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> *Sébastien Piquemal* >> >> -----* @sebpiq* >> ----- http://github.com/sebpiq >> ----- http://funktion.fm >> > > -- *Sébastien Piquemal* -----* @sebpiq* ----- http://github.com/sebpiq ----- http://funktion.fm
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