But I guess pd-l2ork addresses some of these issues? I know Jonathan has done a 
lot of work on a node webkit gui for pd: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/pd-nw
That's a mirror that I stopped updating awhile back.
The repo is here:https://puredata.osuosl.org/
It's an incremental approach, so it still suffers from socket chatter problems 
that tcl/tk Pd has.  But now that tcl/tk is removed from the C code, 
logic is slowly making its way over to the GUI side.
 
For example-- there is no longer any socket chatter when you're typing inside 
an object box.  That all gets handled by the GUI, which means that 
all the editing bindings you're used to in a browser work exactly the same way. 
 It also means the C code that used to handle these details can 
be removed.

Here's a one-eyed pirate cat walking around in a 
patch:pdblog.nfshost.com/catchar.webm
As you can see it looks just like the current incarnation of Pd-l2ork.  There 
are also skins for Pd Vanilla, Extended, C64, and Strongbad.
-Jonathan
 

    On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 12:52 PM, Jonathan Wilkes 
<jancs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

 > if you like your fancy gui's, use them!
Pd's GUI is plain and limited, yes.  But what it lacks in beauty it makes up 
for in tcp socket chatter.
-Jonathan 

    On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 12:02 PM, david medine <dmed...@ucsd.edu> 
wrote:
 

  One thing I'd be interested in knowing about is what (if anything) someone 
tried to do in Pd, but couldn't given its limitations (apart from 
look/feel/convenience  issues). 
 
 On 2/23/16 8:54 AM, Matt Barber wrote:
  
 
 This thread has inspired me to work on a fork called Pd-limited.  
 On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:27 AM, jamal crawford <three...@ml1.net> wrote:
 
  hi list
    >Max have features like auto-align horizontally/vertically and align and 
route patch cords which is very useful to >organize patch cords and make the  
thinks more readable. I like them a lot.
    this is so old. this comparing .... so old.
  if you like your fancy gui's, use them! have you heard of OSC? just dump 
whatever you want thru it and run a headless instance of pd, where you recieve 
it. nobody will even notice. are you a nerd or just pretending :P
  sorry no offence .)
  peace
    ~/.jc
      
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