*zing!* -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> > On Feb 23, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancs...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I don't see why everyone is discussing names when we haven't even settled > the issue of bracket placement. > > -Jonathan > ae85b0319a14998c24b317d7e9de8352 > > > On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 4:59 PM, Miller Puckette <m...@ucsd.edu> wrote: > > > I think it's wisest to leave cyclone as it is (except for maintenance updates) > and, if you want to write objects for compatibility with newer versions of > Max simply start another library. It won't be any trouble for people to > install both of them, and the cyclone code is probably best left alone (as > is much of Pd) just because it's old and you wouldn't want to be stuck with > old ways of doing things. > > Also, the 'name 'cyclone', although witty, has an unfortunate resonance for > certain Europeans... I think it's best left alone. > > cheers > Miller > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 06:46:29PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > I'm seconding Dan on this, name ideas was something being proposed to me > > and all before Fred shared his intention to stop working on "cyclone". I > > didn't even liked the idea of forking cyclone then, the reason being that > > there was no significant change for for projects, one only being able to be > > updated... > > > > > > now, from a previous thread > > > > 2016-02-20 15:57 GMT-02:00 Matt Barber <brbrof...@gmail.com > > <mailto:brbrof...@gmail.com>>: > > > > > If a Max 4.6 compatibility library is really necessary, perhaps that could > > > be the fork with the new name. > > > > > > > I agree to Matt on this too, but with the remark that Max 4.6 compatibility > > would also be present in the updates and further development of cyclone > > > > keeping it simple, the whole issue camos with some of us wanting to > > collaborate and work on updates of cyclone, and the current maintainer > > having issues with it, it's not that he didn't want to spend his time > > working on it, more like he was against that others would help him do that. > > > > do we really need to fork in order to update a library keeping its original > > goal? > > > > I'm ok with whatever the community think it's best. I already started > > working a lot on this and now I'm just on it, 20 new objects in the way, a > > whole revision of all help files going on, it's happening... > > > > cheers > > > > 2016-02-23 18:08 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com > > <mailto:danomat...@gmail.com>>: > > > > > If neither krzysztof not Fred plan to continue development, why can’t it > > > continue under the same name? (Keeping attribution of course!) I’d argue > > > multiple libraries is more confusing to the user especially when they all > > > provide roughly the same functionality but the main one is now very out of > > > date. That, plus the fact that urging people to use [declare -lib cyclone] > > > now requires urging people to do a batch find/replace for “cyclone” when, > > > again, the functionality is the same. > > > > > > -------- > > > Dan Wilcox > > > @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika > > > <https://twitter.com/danomatika>> > > > danomatika.com > > > robotcowboy.com > > > > > > On Feb 23, 2016, at 1:32 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at > > > <mailto:pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at> wrote: > > > > > > i therefore ask both fred and alexandre to change the name of their > > > library, so that they cannot be confused with both the original cyclone > > > library and with each other: neither of the forks is an (or /the/) > > > "official" fork. > > > for what it is worth, git makes it easy to incorporate changes between > > > forks (using pull requests, cherry picking,...) even if the names are > > > different! > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > <http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > <http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > <http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> > >
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