Hi Dan

all i can do is report, i hope you get clues.

now something happens, i think pd-gui opens but not the core or they are not 
connected.

terminal reads:

hi$ /Applications/pd-0.47.0/new-tk/Pd-0.47-0.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd ; exit;
dyld: Symbol not found: ___strlcat_chk
  Referenced from: 
/Applications/pd-0.47.0/new-tk/Pd-0.47-0.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../bin/pd
  Expected in: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
 in 
/Applications/pd-0.47.0/new-tk/Pd-0.47-0.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../bin/pd
pdsend errorname: >>can't read "pd_socket": no such variable<<

there popps up an error-message which reads in detail:

Not connected to 'pd' process
Not connected to 'pd' process
    while executing
"error "Not connected to 'pd' process""
    (procedure "pdsend" line 6)
    invoked from within
"pdsend "pd start-path-dialog""
    (procedure "::tk::mac::ShowPreferences" line 3)
    invoked from within
"::tk::mac::ShowPreferences"

best,

Johnny


Am 29.05.2016 um 18:32 schrieb Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com>:

> Try one of these: http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
> 
> I forgot to enable weak-linking, so maybe that helps.
> 
> --------
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika
> danomatika.com
> robotcowboy.com
> 
>> On May 29, 2016, at 5:20 AM, hi <joson.andr...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> for your info:
>> 
>> trying tk8.6 32bit version, osx 10.8.5 -> it crashes; i get:
>> 
>> hi$ /Applications/pd-0.47.0/new-tk/Pd-0.47-0.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd ; exit;
>> 2016-05-29 13:13:47.806 Pd[1944:707] -[NSProcessInfo 
>> operatingSystemVersion]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x3317400
>> 2016-05-29 13:13:47.807 Pd[1944:707] *** Terminating app due to uncaught 
>> exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '-[NSProcessInfo 
>> operatingSystemVersion]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x3317400'
>> *** Call stack at first throw:
>> (
>>      0   CoreFoundation                      0x92d7de8b __raiseError + 219
>>      1   libobjc.A.dylib                     0x9810152e objc_exception_throw 
>> + 230
>>      2   CoreFoundation                      0x92d81afd -[NSObject(NSObject) 
>> doesNotRecognizeSelector:] + 253
>>      3   CoreFoundation                      0x92cc9e87 ___forwarding___ + 
>> 487
>>      4   CoreFoundation                      0x92d14c62 
>> __forwarding_prep_1___ + 50
>>      5   Tk                                  0x0b0cfa37 TkpOpenDisplay + 627
>>      6   Tk                                  0x0b02fa6c TkCreateMainWindow + 
>> 1200
>>      7   Tk                                  0x0b02f607 TkCreateMainWindow + 
>> 75
>>      8   Tk                                  0x0b03917d Tk_PkgInitStubsCheck 
>> + 29936
>>      9   Tk                                  0x0b0396ac TkCreateFrame + 140
>>      10  Tk                                  0x0b031a38 Tk_Init + 1676
>>      11  Pd                                  0x00004476 Pd + 13430
>>      12  Tk                                  0x0b022e5f Tk_MainEx + 1273
>>      13  Pd                                  0x00004447 Pd + 13383
>>      14  libdyld.dylib                       0x99ae5725 start + 0
>>      15  ???                                 0x00000001 0x0 + 1
>> )
>> Trace/BPT trap: 5
>> logout
>> 
>> trying 32bit tk8.5, on 10.8.5 it also crashes:
>> 
>> hi$ /Applications/pd-0.47.0/new-tk/Pd-0.47-0.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd ; exit;
>> 2016-05-29 13:18:22.428 Pd[1977:707] -[NSProcessInfo 
>> operatingSystemVersion]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x2331790
>> 2016-05-29 13:18:22.429 Pd[1977:707] *** Terminating app due to uncaught 
>> exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '-[NSProcessInfo 
>> operatingSystemVersion]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x2331790'
>> *** Call stack at first throw:
>> (
>>      0   CoreFoundation                      0x92d7de8b __raiseError + 219
>>      1   libobjc.A.dylib                     0x9810152e objc_exception_throw 
>> + 230
>>      2   CoreFoundation                      0x92d81afd -[NSObject(NSObject) 
>> doesNotRecognizeSelector:] + 253
>>      3   CoreFoundation                      0x92cc9e87 ___forwarding___ + 
>> 487
>>      4   CoreFoundation                      0x92d14c62 
>> __forwarding_prep_1___ + 50
>>      5   Tk                                  0x0b0c2f13 TkpOpenDisplay + 627
>>      6   Tk                                  0x0b02bdd5 TkCreateMainWindow + 
>> 1173
>>      7   Tk                                  0x0b02b98b TkCreateMainWindow + 
>> 75
>>      8   Tk                                  0x0b034ee1 Tk_PkgInitStubsCheck 
>> + 29365
>>      9   Tk                                  0x0b035392 TkCreateFrame + 140
>>      10  Tk                                  0x0b02da41 Tk_Init + 1529
>>      11  Pd                                  0x000034da Pd + 9434
>>      12  Tk                                  0x0b01ff01 Tk_MainEx + 1450
>>      13  Pd                                  0x000034ac Pd + 9388
>>      14  libdyld.dylib                       0x99ae5725 start + 0
>>      15  ???                                 0x00000001 0x0 + 1
>> )
>> Trace/BPT trap: 5
>> logout
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 27.05.2016 um 19:34 schrieb Scott R. Looney <scottrloo...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>>> hi Dan! - verifying from my end PD tk86 64 Bit crashes immediately on start 
>>> on my hackintosh running 10.8.5. console reads:
>>> 
>>> Application Specific Information:
>>> *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', 
>>> reason: '-[NSProcessInfo operatingSystemVersion]: unrecognized selector 
>>> sent to instance 0x7fd0a341b550'
>>> abort() called
>>> terminate called throwing an exception
>>> 
>>> Application Specific Backtrace 1:
>>> 0   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff88815b06 
>>> __exceptionPreprocess + 198
>>> 1   libobjc.A.dylib                     0x00007fff835733f0 
>>> objc_exception_throw + 43
>>> 2   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff888ac40a 
>>> -[NSObject(NSObject) doesNotRecognizeSelector:] + 186
>>> 3   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff8880402e ___forwarding___ 
>>> + 414
>>> 4   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff88849dad 
>>> __forwarding_prep_1___ + 237
>>> 5   Tk                                  0x0000000103f38c79 TkpOpenDisplay + 
>>> 634
>>> 6   Tk                                  0x0000000103e95bff 
>>> TkCreateMainWindow + 1167
>>> 7   Tk                                  0x0000000103e957bf 
>>> TkCreateMainWindow + 79
>>> 8   Tk                                  0x0000000103e9f3b9 
>>> Tk_PkgInitStubsCheck + 29930
>>> 9   Tk                                  0x0000000103e9f865 TkCreateFrame + 
>>> 155
>>> 10  Tk                                  0x0000000103e97ce0 Tk_Init + 1604
>>> 11  Pd                                  0x0000000103e5f478 Pd + 13432
>>> 12  Tk                                  0x0000000103e88da7 Tk_MainEx + 1426
>>> 13  Pd                                  0x0000000103e5f44d Pd + 13389
>>> 14  libdyld.dylib                       0x00007fff87c457e1 start + 0
>>> 
>>> hope this helps! thanks for improving the look of PD!
>>> 
>>> best,
>>> scott
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Looks like it’s due to the min macosx version being too low. I rebuilt all 
>>> the test osx builds, try one of these http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/
>>> 
>>> --------
>>> Dan Wilcox
>>> @danomatika
>>> danomatika.com
>>> robotcowboy.com
>>> 
>>>> On May 26, 2016, at 12:45 PM, hi <joson.andr...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Dan
>>>> 
>>>> as report: i tried 32bits with 10.8.5, and it crashed also. Console error 
>>>> reads:
>>>> 
>>>> JohnnyMauser:~ hi$ 
>>>> /Applications/pd-0.47.0/pd-tk-8.6/Pd-0.47-0.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd 
>>>> ; exit;
>>>> dyld: Symbol not found: ___strlcat_chk
>>>> Referenced from: 
>>>> /Applications/pd-0.47.0/pd-tk-8.6/Pd-0.47-0.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
>>>> Expected in: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
>>>> in 
>>>> /Applications/pd-0.47.0/pd-tk-8.6/Pd-0.47-0.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
>>>> Trace/BPT trap: 5
>>>> logout
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your work!!
>>>> 
>>>> Johnny
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 25.05.2016 um 15:11 schrieb Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Can you do the following to get a console printout which hopefully shows 
>>>>> the error involved?
>>>>> 
>>>>> * right click on the app and choose “Show Package Contents”
>>>>> * navigate to Contents/Resources/bin
>>>>> * double click “pd"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Copy and paste any error prints / tcl stack trace in your next email.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --------
>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>> @danomatika
>>>>> danomatika.com
>>>>> robotcowboy.com
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 25, 2016, at 3:41 AM, José Rafael Subía Valdez 
>>>>>> <jsubiaval...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Dan, Me again, I tried that build that you sent me yesterday, but 
>>>>>> it does not start up. The icon on the dock says it is loaded as it does 
>>>>>> not blink or jump, but there is no PD window or menu.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> again, just trying to help.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Here’s the 32 bit build with TK 8.4 which should work fine on older 
>>>>>> systems: Pd-0.47.0_osx_tk84_32bit.app.zip
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The only difference between these builds is the TK version of the 
>>>>>> Wish.app used to create the app bundle and the inclusion of the Tcl/TK 
>>>>>> frameworks for versions not found on OSX. The underlying pd core & 
>>>>>> objects are the same.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The main thing to check is the the dialogs and window behavior all work 
>>>>>> as before since we’re now checking Tk versions to enable certain 
>>>>>> features/workarounds to support both older & newer Tks on Mac.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --------
>>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>>> @danomatika
>>>>>> danomatika.com
>>>>>> robotcowboy.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 24, 2016, at 2:53 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez 
>>>>>>> <jsubiaval...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> that's great news Dan, thanks for all your work.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> That’s just for the build with the newer TK. Pd will work fine for you 
>>>>>>> with the older TK 8.4.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>>>> @danomatika
>>>>>>> danomatika.com
>>>>>>> robotcowboy.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2016, at 2:45 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez 
>>>>>>>> <jsubiaval...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ufff.. that is so sad to hear, it was the best in my opinion.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yeah, 10.6 is probably too old. I was thinking more 10.8+.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>>>>> @danomatika
>>>>>>>> danomatika.com
>>>>>>>> robotcowboy.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2016, at 12:22 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez 
>>>>>>>>> <jsubiaval...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello Dan,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> in OSX 10.6.8 it won't even start up, as it crashes immediately. Just 
>>>>>>>>> trying to help, not complaining at all :P
>>>>>>>>> here is my system log:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Path:            /Users/JRSV/Desktop/Pd-0.47-0.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd
>>>>>>>>> Identifier:      org.puredata
>>>>>>>>> Version:         ??? (???)
>>>>>>>>> Code Type:       X86 (Native)
>>>>>>>>> Parent Process:  launchd [312]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Date/Time:       2016-05-24 19:19:59.336 +0100
>>>>>>>>> OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)
>>>>>>>>> Report Version:  6
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Interval Since Last Report:          183831 sec
>>>>>>>>> Crashes Since Last Report:           15519
>>>>>>>>> Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   3
>>>>>>>>> Anonymous UUID:                      
>>>>>>>>> 489DE8AD-89BE-4348-99FE-C70BF546E543
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
>>>>>>>>> Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x000000008fe01030
>>>>>>>>> Crashed Thread:  Unknown
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Backtrace not available
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Unknown thread crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
>>>>>>>>> eax: 0x00000000  ebx: 0x00000000  ecx: 0x00000000  edx: 0x00000000
>>>>>>>>> edi: 0x00000000  esi: 0x00000000  ebp: 0x00000000  esp: 0x00000000
>>>>>>>>>  ss: 0x0000001f  efl: 0x00010202  eip: 0x8fe01030   cs: 0x00000017
>>>>>>>>>  ds: 0x0000001f   es: 0x0000001f   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x00000000
>>>>>>>>> cr2: 0x8fe01030
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Binary images description not available
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Model: MacBookPro6,2, BootROM MBP61.0057.B0C, 2 processors, Intel 
>>>>>>>>> Core i7, 2.66 GHz, 4 GB, SMC 1.58f17
>>>>>>>>> Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, PCIe, 512 MB
>>>>>>>>> Graphics: Intel HD Graphics, Intel HD Graphics, Built-In, 288 MB
>>>>>>>>> Memory Module: global_name
>>>>>>>>> AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x93), 
>>>>>>>>> Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.131.42.4)
>>>>>>>>> Bluetooth: Version 2.4.5f3, 2 service, 12 devices, 1 incoming serial 
>>>>>>>>> ports
>>>>>>>>> Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
>>>>>>>>> Serial ATA Device: ST9500325ASG, 465.76 GB
>>>>>>>>> Serial ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-898
>>>>>>>>> USB Device: Hub, 0x0424  (SMSC), 0x2514, 0xfa100000 / 2
>>>>>>>>> USB Device: Hub in Apple Pro Keyboard, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x1003, 
>>>>>>>>> 0xfa140000 / 6
>>>>>>>>> USB Device: USB Optical Mouse, 0x046d  (Logitech Inc.), 0xc05a, 
>>>>>>>>> 0xfa141000 / 9
>>>>>>>>> USB Device: Apple Pro Keyboard, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x020c, 
>>>>>>>>> 0xfa143000 / 7
>>>>>>>>> USB Device: Internal Memory Card Reader, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 
>>>>>>>>> 0x8403, 0xfa130000 / 5
>>>>>>>>> USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 
>>>>>>>>> 0x0236, 0xfa120000 / 4
>>>>>>>>> USB Device: BRCM2070 Hub, 0x0a5c  (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 
>>>>>>>>> 0xfa110000 / 3
>>>>>>>>> USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 
>>>>>>>>> 0x8218, 0xfa113000 / 8
>>>>>>>>> USB Device: Hub, 0x0424  (SMSC), 0x2514, 0xfd100000 / 2
>>>>>>>>> USB Device: Built-in iSight, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x8507, 0xfd110000 
>>>>>>>>> / 4
>>>>>>>>> USB Device: IR Receiver, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x8242, 0xfd120000 / 3
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomat...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Howdy all,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think I’ve pretty much ironed out the issues with the Tk Cocoa 
>>>>>>>>> backend on OSX using Tk 8.5 & 8.6.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Here are two test builds that include embedded Tcl/TK 8.6.5 
>>>>>>>>> frameworks:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> * http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/Pd-0.47-0_osx_tk86_32bit.app.zip
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> * http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/Pd-0.47-0_osx_tk86_64bit.app.zip
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I testing on OSX 10.11, but they should work on earlier versions of 
>>>>>>>>> OSX as well. The 32 bit build works fine with 32 bit externals on 
>>>>>>>>> deken (ie Gem). 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Also, the retina font rendering looks great!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The biggest overall changes are to the keybindings since there is no 
>>>>>>>>> way to override the built in Cocoa Cmd+M & Cmd+H default bindings:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>       • Send Message: Mod+M/Mod+Shift+M -> Mod+Shift+K
>>>>>>>>>       • HSlider: Mod+Shift+H -> Mod+Shift+J
>>>>>>>>>       • Tidy Up: Mod+Shift+R
>>>>>>>>>       • Graph: Mod+Shift+G
>>>>>>>>>       • Array: Mod+Shift+A
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> *This is a first stab at remapping those two combos. Let me know what 
>>>>>>>>> you think.*
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You can see the commit details on the GitHub PR: 
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/6
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>>>>>> @danomatika
>>>>>>>>> danomatika.com
>>>>>>>>> robotcowboy.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> José Rafael Subía Valdez
>>>>>>>>> www.jrsv.net
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> José Rafael Subía Valdez
>>>>>>>> www.jrsv.net
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> José Rafael Subía Valdez
>>>>>>> www.jrsv.net
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> José Rafael Subía Valdez
>>>>>> www.jrsv.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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