For now, yeah. I've been testing builds using the included Tk Wish in the 
mac/stuff folder ala "make app." This is still the safest & most compatible 
version so far.

The object box sizing needs to be fixed in 8.5 / 8.6. Maybe it's as simple as 
tweaking the font metrics only for macOS & Tk > 8.4?

> On Jul 15, 2017, at 11:35 PM, Miller Puckette <m...@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
> Aha... I built it with 8.5 - should I be still using 8.4?
> 
> cheers
> M
> 
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:07:30PM +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 11:02 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
>>> 
>>> I notice it looks quite differently in Mac OS, like there is a new font, 
>>> but it still seems it is Monaco. But the font size is smaller and the boxes 
>>> are thinner and wider. A subpatch will also have an extra space to the 
>>> right after the text/name of the subpatch.
>> 
>> You are seeing the retina rendering with a newer Tk, which still has those 
>> font issues as the rendered box size does not quite fit the font. I haven't 
>> been able to track down a fix yet.
>> 
>> It's weird, though, as this shouldn't be the default yet and Pd should still 
>> be using 8.4 which is pixelated on retina screens but has correct object 
>> sizing.
>> 
>> Miller, how did you build the mac distribution app?
>> 
>>> I know there's a Pull Request where we're discussing a cross platform 
>>> consistency for Pd (DejaVu Sans Mono as default font crossplatform), but it 
>>> hasn't been merged yet, right?
>> 
>> No. There's still the issue of making it work on Windows which has not been 
>> resolved yet. I am aware of the TWAPI extension but that is not ideal as Pd 
>> shouldn't rely on too many dependencies, especially for only loading a font 
>> on one platform. I may be able to get to that in a few weeks.`
>> 
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