I agree, this is an established aspect of patching in Pd and changing it is not 
likely possible at this point. A positive reinforcement for using trigger is 
that it's simply more readable. I also admit to using fanning when I know order 
isn't as important for that case,

I feel like often these problems also come from people trying Pd out after 
being more familiar with Max. Perhaps it would be good if Pd included a mini 
"Pd for Max users" guide which starts with execution order differences, ie. on 
canvas placement versus creation order. Forgive me if this info is in our 
documentation, I admit to not having gone through it since circa 2006 when I 
first started with Pd.

> On Feb 10, 2022, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 10:30:36 +0100
> From: Roman Haefeli <reduz...@gmail.com <mailto:reduz...@gmail.com>>
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>
> Subject: Re: [PD] [midifile]
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> On Thu, 2022-02-10 at 10:09 +0100, Max wrote:
> 
>> Should Pd warn the user when one outlet is connected to multiple
>> objects?
> 
> I'd rather want Pd not to do that. 
> 
> 1) There are too many cases where fanning outlet connections are OK.
> 
> 2) I believe it's more valuable if people do not fanning connections
> because they understand their implications rather than because a
> message tells them to avoid them.
> 
> 3) I'm personally not so fond of the idea of giving people patching
> advice. 

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Dan Wilcox
@danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika>
danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>



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