Sorry about the bad subject. Don't post too regularly and not sure the best way to reply to a thread here. Guess it's just reply, change subject, delete irrelevant parts of the thread. I do appreciate your patience and continued conversation.
An even better feature would be to hover over an outlet and see the connected inlets and/or cables highlighted. I generally make neat patches that are easy to follow, but even with neat patches there can be a lot of crossed cables. I imagine implementing this would be even more difficult. Is Pd's GUI kept really simple because it's difficult to implement new features or because it's important to keep a low impact on the cpu? IOhannes, I didn't even know you could connect an inlet-outlet pair twice. What is the effect? Does it send the data twice at control rate and does is it additive with signals? Sam > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:58:37 +0100 > From: IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoel...@iem.at> > To: pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: [PD] fan-out (was Re: Pd-list Digest, Vol 203, Issue 12) > Message-ID: <47069476-79c9-d40c-1069-6f71aba06...@iem.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > > hi. > > it would be super-cool if you could change the subject to something > meaningful before replying to a digest mail. > > On 2/10/22 14:39, Samuel Burt wrote: > > Having used Pd for two decades, this still catches me occasionally. I was > > that's the reason why i think that statements like "Fanning out to cold > control inlets is perfectly fine" and "I also admit to using fanning > when I know order isn't as important for that case" are problematic. > not because they are wrong (they are objectively correct), but because > they encourage bad habits which are hard to come by. > > > > only able to debug the problem because I knew this could be an issue. > Guess > > the UI doesn't allow for some kind of subtle indication that you've > fanned > > connections from an outlet. Would be nice though if a little "x2", "x3", > > and "x4" would pop up next to your mouse cursor when you are making a > > connection and mouse over the next inlet. > > dunno. > if you are currently creating a fan-out you are hopefully aware that you > are doing just that (i think it's *really* hard to not notice that an > outlet already has a connection going out). > so the problem is not to make people aware that they are fanning out, > but to make people aware that this might introduce message ordering > problems. > > in the meantime, use triggerize (Ctrl+a Ctrl+t) to resolve all your > fan-outs. > > gfmkdf > IOhannes > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: OpenPGP_signature > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 840 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: < > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20220210/a0accc47/attachment-0001.sig > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 15:00:48 +0100 > From: IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoel...@iem.at> > To: pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] [midifile] > Message-ID: <31c53131-75de-c0b9-bcaa-d4260d416...@iem.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > On 2/10/22 10:30, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > 2) I believe it's more valuable if people do not fanning connections > > because they understand their implications rather than because a > > message tells them to avoid them. > > but maybe they can be made aware of the implications if they were made > explicit. > > > > > 3) I'm personally not so fond of the idea of giving people patching > > advice. > > i understand that. > > on a related note: > since Pd-0.52 it is no longer possible to connect a single outlet to > single inlet twice. > after reading this thread , i wonder whether this was premature and > whether we should undo that change. > > gfmasdr > IOhannes > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: OpenPGP_signature > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 840 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: < > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20220210/e1cd7a13/attachment.sig > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list mailing list > Pd-list@lists.iem.at > to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Pd-list Digest, Vol 203, Issue 14 > **************************************** >
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