Personally, I can't build fat macOS externals because I don't have a
(recent enough) Mac...
But generally you're right: it's not like we're talking about thousands
of packages. Deken currently lists 204 Darwin amd64 binaries, some of
which are actually multiple versions of the same library. So we're
probably talking about 100 externals maximum.
But why not do both:
1) try to compile and upload as many universal binaries as possible
2) make a better solution for the status quo (either seperate builds or
some big warning + instructions on the download page)
Christof
On 30.03.2022 17:30, Dan Wilcox wrote:
How many externals are there, really? For those that use
pd-lib-builder, it's a simple recompile.
I'd argue that more time has been spent writing emails on this issue
than it would take for each person to take one external, make a fat
build, and upload to deken.
We went through this already with the transition from Pd-extended
end-of-life to Pd vanilla + deken: there was much handwrining about
the extended externals not being easy to install until someone
(IOhannes) simply put the existing compiled externals on deken.
We know what needs to be done, so let's do it.
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Now *I* am utterly confused.
now people seem to all agree that it was much better way back then.
I think everybody agrees that there should be an ARM64 binary for macOS.
The question is just whether it should be the default on M1 machines
when there are so few ARM64 externals for macOS available on Deken. (I
count 9: zexy, comport, xsample, pool, clk, absattr, vasp, zconf,
constantq~)
Actually, this issue already came up two months ago and someone called
it a "lousy UX":
https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2022-01/130772.html
So what has changed?
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As I said before, we might alternatively add a disclaimer to the
download page that people might want to force-run Pd under Rosetta if
they don't find all the externals they need.
However, I'm not a Mac user and I don't have a ball in this game. I was
just parotting what I thought the consensus was back then...
Christof
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